View Full Version : Writers' strike ends most U.S. scripted TV work


James Gassaway
12-19-2007, 06:57 AM
Mac Breck wrote:
> "James Gassaway" <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:47684410$0$36352$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> Pete B wrote:
>>> In article <4767def2$0$30061$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>,
>>> macthevorlon@yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>>> Sales of the first B5-TLT DVD, yes. Also, WB is very happy with
>>>> the sales, which are "orders of magnitude greater than expected"
>>>> (but how low sales did they "expect" considering that they put
>>>> almost ZERO advertising behind the disc?).
>>>
>>> And into the sets...
>>>
>>>> HOWEVER, translating that studio
>>>> rhetoric into backing of the next B5-TLT DVD (i.e. greatly
>>>> increasing the budget), is another thing entirely. The DISCONNECT
>>>> is between the rhetoric and the allocation of the budget for the
>>>> next DVD.
>>>>
>>>> 1. How many people think Warner Brothers will double the budget of
>>>> the first DVD?
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>>>> 2. How many people think Warner Brothers will increase the budget
>>>> by 50%?
>>>>
>>>> 3. How many people think Warner Brothers will allocate a
>>>> respectable chunk of change, in addition to the episodic budget,
>>>> for remaking the CGI they lost, or the costumes and props they
>>>> sold or threw away?
>>>>
>>>> 4. How many people think Warner Brothers will increase the budget
>>>> by ~10%, give no additional money for remaking the CGI, wardrobe
>>>> and props, and think they're being extravagant by doing so?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm betting on Door #4. :-P They'll talk the talk, but they won't
>>>> walk the walk.
>>>
>>> Yeah, 4 sounds likely to me as well - alas.
>>
>> 5. Decrease the budget by 15% (Hey, you've already made the set and
>> bought the costumes) and demand an extra hour of product for it.
>
> Ah, I see I might have been too optimistic. LOL.
>
> Really though, what set(s)? Almost all of the sets weren't real, and
> some of the ones that were "supposedly" real, looked flat (2D) to me,
> namely the background in Lochley's quarters (Did that background look
> like it had depth, to you??? To me it looked as flat as a background
> in a animated cartoon.*). As for the costumes, those were the old
> ones that they *were* able to find.
>
>
> * That may have been because they only had about three static shots
> (three angles of seated, talking actors), and they didn't move around
> the room much to demonstrate depth in the background (i.e. walk
> between stuff). Babylon 5 felt real to me. The interior of
> Lochley's quarters on the B5-TLT disc felt half real and half fake,
> like the sofa chair and coffee table were in front of a greenscreen
> background.

Well, I have the DVD but its among the titles in the two shelves of "to be
watched" stuff so I can't judge the quality of the work yet. But as noted
elsewhere to the high muckity-mucks, sets is sets. If you're doing 'em in a
computer they should be even cheaper. After all they're just a computer
picture, no need for actually building them. Cut the budget another 10% for
that.

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Mac Breck
12-20-2007, 01:19 PM
"James Gassaway" <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:476906f1$0$36354$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Mac Breck wrote:
> > "James Gassaway" <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in message
> > news:47684410$0$36352$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> >> Pete B wrote:
> >>> In article <4767def2$0$30061$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>,
> >>> macthevorlon@yahoo.com says...
> >>>
> >>>> Sales of the first B5-TLT DVD, yes. Also, WB is very happy with
> >>>> the sales, which are "orders of magnitude greater than expected"
> >>>> (but how low sales did they "expect" considering that they put
> >>>> almost ZERO advertising behind the disc?).
> >>>
> >>> And into the sets...
> >>>
> >>>> HOWEVER, translating that studio
> >>>> rhetoric into backing of the next B5-TLT DVD (i.e. greatly
> >>>> increasing the budget), is another thing entirely. The
DISCONNECT
> >>>> is between the rhetoric and the allocation of the budget for the
> >>>> next DVD.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. How many people think Warner Brothers will double the budget
of
> >>>> the first DVD?
> >>>
> >>> Indeed.
> >>>
> >>>> 2. How many people think Warner Brothers will increase the budget
> >>>> by 50%?
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. How many people think Warner Brothers will allocate a
> >>>> respectable chunk of change, in addition to the episodic budget,
> >>>> for remaking the CGI they lost, or the costumes and props they
> >>>> sold or threw away?
> >>>>
> >>>> 4. How many people think Warner Brothers will increase the budget
> >>>> by ~10%, give no additional money for remaking the CGI, wardrobe
> >>>> and props, and think they're being extravagant by doing so?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm betting on Door #4. :-P They'll talk the talk, but they
won't
> >>>> walk the walk.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, 4 sounds likely to me as well - alas.
> >>
> >> 5. Decrease the budget by 15% (Hey, you've already made the set and
> >> bought the costumes) and demand an extra hour of product for it.
> >
> > Ah, I see I might have been too optimistic. LOL.
> >
> > Really though, what set(s)? Almost all of the sets weren't real,
and
> > some of the ones that were "supposedly" real, looked flat (2D) to
me,
> > namely the background in Lochley's quarters (Did that background
look
> > like it had depth, to you??? To me it looked as flat as a background
> > in a animated cartoon.*). As for the costumes, those were the old
> > ones that they *were* able to find.
> >
> >
> > * That may have been because they only had about three static shots
> > (three angles of seated, talking actors), and they didn't move
around
> > the room much to demonstrate depth in the background (i.e. walk
> > between stuff). Babylon 5 felt real to me. The interior of
> > Lochley's quarters on the B5-TLT disc felt half real and half fake,
> > like the sofa chair and coffee table were in front of a greenscreen
> > background.
>
> Well, I have the DVD but its among the titles in the two shelves of
"to be
> watched" stuff so I can't judge the quality of the work yet. But as
noted
> elsewhere to the high muckity-mucks, sets is sets. If you're doing
'em in a
> computer they should be even cheaper. After all they're just a
computer
> picture, no need for actually building them. Cut the budget another
10% for
> that.

C'mon. it's ONLY 72 minutes. Make time and get back to us.

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