Someone mentioned "A Taste of Armageddon." The armory was seen/
mentioned there.....

Was the armory mentioned in "A Private Little War" at the end when
Kirk had muskets/rifles made? Or was it just left up in the air
(general machining, etc.?)

The armory was seen in "Day of the Dove" where all the weapons had
become swords, etc.

There was a mention in ST VI of it, if I recall correctly.

Was it mentioned in TNG on the Enterprise D, of it having an armory
room?

"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> writes:

>Someone mentioned "A Taste of Armageddon." The armory was seen/
>mentioned there.....

>Was the armory mentioned in "A Private Little War" at the end when
>Kirk had muskets/rifles made? Or was it just left up in the air
>(general machining, etc.?)

I *think* the armory was left by inference there. Kirk was out
of contact with the ship for most of the episode and he couldn't order
the flintlocks made until the last moments, when he also called them
serpents for the Garden of Eden. I may be mistaken.


>The armory was seen in "Day of the Dove" where all the weapons had
>become swords, etc.

A casual Google site search on the closed captioning transcripts
http://www.voyager.cz/tos/transcripts.htm
suggests that 'Space Seed' and 'Day of the Dove' are the only
episodes to mention the ship's armory. 'A Taste of Armageddon' has the
ship's arsenal, and 'Arena' mentions the arsenal for the Old Western
Fortress planet.


>There was a mention in ST VI of it, if I recall correctly.

I *think* you're right, but I can't place the scene. We did
have Valeris whipping out a phaser so that when she later killed Deadmeat
One and Two nobody would think it odd a phaser did have her fingerprints
on it, though that was from the galley, where the phasers are used for
the emergency heating of coffee.


>Was it mentioned in TNG on the Enterprise D, of it having an armory
>room?

I'll need to look later at this site that has near-finished
draft scripts for Next Generation but I don't remember a specific mention
of the armory there. It may have become part of the 'Technology Unbound'
idea of Roddenberry-or-Gerrold that there wouldn't be a particular spot
for the phasers (see how O'Brien whipped one out of his console in
'Encounter at Farpoint'), the way there wasn't a specific need for a
Chief Engineer. (They started with multiple engineering chiefs and seem
to have wanted that position not to be particularly important.)

By the movies Enterprise-E certainly has an arsenal; they're
busy whipping phasers out of it in 'Nemesis' so that dozens of trained
security teams do absolutely nothing to in any way halt the invading
Remans.

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Joseph Nebus
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On Dec 31, 8:14�am, nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote:
> "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> writes:
> >Was it mentioned in TNG on the Enterprise D, of it having an armory
> >room?
>
> � � � � I'll need to look later at this site that has near-finished
> draft scripts for Next Generation but I don't remember a specific mention
> of the armory there. �It may have become part of the 'Technology Unbound'
> idea of Roddenberry-or-Gerrold that there wouldn't be a particular spot
> for the phasers (see how O'Brien whipped one out of his console in
> 'Encounter at Farpoint'), the way there wasn't a specific need for a
> Chief Engineer. �(They started with multiple engineering chiefs and seem
> to have wanted that position not to be particularly important.) �
>
> � � � � By the movies Enterprise-E certainly has an arsenal; they're
> busy whipping phasers out of it in 'Nemesis' so that dozens of trained
> security teams do absolutely nothing to in any way halt the invading
> Remans. �


In '11001001' they showed Picard and Riker entering the armory on the
D. And in STFC, wasn't the strategy session leading to Engineering in
the armory?



DES

"DeeEss57@aol.com" <DeeEss57@aol.com> writes:

>In '11001001' they showed Picard and Riker entering the armory on the
>D.

Do they? The TwizTV script doesn't specify anything but a
corridor, although these scripts are not always the final shooting
script (and sometimes make for interesting reading at the variances
in place):
http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/nextgeneration/season1/tng-115.txt


> And in STFC, wasn't the strategy session leading to Engineering in
>the armory?

That I couldn't say; I haven't seen the movie in a while and
all the Enterprise-E sets look the same to me anyway. They really
need to learn the magic of the ``establishing shot''. Twiztv has the
script to an earlier version of First Contact, where Picard's on the
surface and Riker aboard ship, so that's no help.

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Joseph Nebus
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On Jan 1, 2:13 pm, nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote:
> "DeeEs...@aol.com" <DeeEs...@aol.com> writes:
> >In '11001001' they showed Picard and Riker entering the armory on the
> >D.
>
>         Do they?  The TwizTV script doesn't specify anything buta
> corridor, although these scripts are not always the final shooting
> script (and sometimes make for interesting reading at the variances
> in place):
>        http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/nextgeneration/season1/tng-115.txt
>
> > And in STFC, wasn't the strategy session leading to Engineering in
> >the armory?
>
>         That I couldn't say; I haven't seen the movie in a while and
> all the Enterprise-E sets look the same to me anyway.  They really
> need to learn the magic of the ``establishing shot''.  Twiztv has the
> script to an earlier version of First Contact, where Picard's on the
> surface and Riker aboard ship, so that's no help.  

Well, this leads to two possibilities, that the script said corridor
but the set dressers and/or director said "Wouldn't it be cool if we
dressed the set like this, to make it look like this..." or that the
Enterprise, being a big ship, has certain areas not specifically
called an "armory" where weapons are stashed.

Someone mentioned a phaser in a pull out drawer or clipped under a
console, much like a storekeeper or cashier at a desk would today.
(The gun under the table scene at the "Omega Force" check point in
"True Lies" also comes to mind.) This would make sense, pre
positioning gear at points like Bridge, transporter rooms etc. where a
threat might have to be repelled. Not specifically calling such a
point the armory?

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