View Full Version : Clone Insurance


Wim Lewis
12-31-2007, 02:28 AM
In article <8fc00f60-4b35-4279-bfa3-47ea708181a5@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Michael Grosberg <grosberg.michael@gmail.com> wrote:
>...Patently absurd, right? the fact that some other guy with our DNA
>and memories is walking around won't help us; we'll still be dead.
>
>but what if our employer demands it? They don't care it's some other
>dude. They invested in teaching us some important skill and they don't
>want to have to start over.
>
>So - my question is: suppose your employer tells you they want to
>record your memories and DNA and restore you if/when you die.

If my brain-state can be replayed into a clone body, it seems likely it
can be replayed into any ol' body. Or into a clone before I'm dead, if
the genetics of the host body are really critical. So why should my employer
wait until I die before obligating me to restore their oh so valuable
training into a new body?

I assume my non-compete contract will have something in it to keep me from
selling copies of my brain state to competitors, though.


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Bryan Derksen
12-31-2007, 03:10 AM
Wim Lewis wrote:
> In article <8fc00f60-4b35-4279-bfa3-47ea708181a5@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Michael Grosberg <grosberg.michael@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...Patently absurd, right? the fact that some other guy with our DNA
>> and memories is walking around won't help us; we'll still be dead.

Reasonable people can differ on this subject. Personally, I think that
if there's a guy walking around with my DNA and memories then I wouldn't
consider myself to be dead even if there's been a discontinuity recently
where I _was_ dead for a while.

> If my brain-state can be replayed into a clone body, it seems likely it
> can be replayed into any ol' body. Or into a clone before I'm dead, if
> the genetics of the host body are really critical. So why should my employer
> wait until I die before obligating me to restore their oh so valuable
> training into a new body?

Why should an employer refrain from obligating you to spend 80 hours a
week at your job? Because employers are not all-powerful, the employee
gets to accept or decline the conditions in employment contracts and
there are laws restricting some of the things that employers can put
into them.

And imagine the potential for union activities when an entire workforce
consists of copies of the exact same person. :)

> I assume my non-compete contract will have something in it to keep me from
> selling copies of my brain state to competitors, though.

I can't imagine a circumstance where I would be willing to sign a
contract that's so intrusive into my personal life that it tries to
limit what I can do with my own brain-state.

Mind you, "selling copies of my brain state to competitors" sounds
suspiciously like "selling myself into slavery", so I can't imagine
circumstances where I'd be willing to do that either. Unless perhaps
it's the only way to get backups of myself made, in which case I might
be willing to endure the hardship in exchange for the long-term security.