<remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 15, 9:43 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > I hardly think that many average mexicans can even afford to pay for
>> > the phones. So usage would primarily be by tourists.
>
>> You'd be surprised. Cell phones are used all around the world now:
>
> Cell networks definitely have replaced landlines in the 21st Century.
> The infrastructure of landlines is too susceptible to terrorism or
> theft of equipment and a single tower can cover a radii that would
> have to be manually attached to a landline system. I can't even
> imagine reliable landline service in a war torn region.

True, but can't call phones be jammed like radio signals?

>
> Landlines continue to remain more durable, since it can access places
> that can't get a signal, and capacity is acapacity, so I can't see
> total obsolescence, but to assume you can't get a signal says that
> you've never been there.

Been where? The fact that the infrastructure in this country and other
highly industrialized countries supports the use of cell phones does not
mean they are world wide.

> And Sylar was close enough to a road to be able to blunder into the
> twins, which is a main consideration for the placement of towers.

Ah, but did he have a cell phone? :P

On Dec 17, 6:01 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonl...@cableone.net> wrote:

> True, but can't call phones be jammed like radio signals?

That would take constant energy, the signals are digital information
and less prone to interference, and the jamming signal is easily
triangulated. If anyone's that malicious, they shouldn't be surprised
that a sidewinder missile is coming down their chimney instead of
Santa Claus.

> Been where? The fact that the infrastructure in this country and other
> highly industrialized countries supports the use of cell phones does not
> mean they are world wide.

It isn't about being a highly industrialized country, but the ability
to set up the infrastructure, and with one tower providing anywhere
from 5-25 miles of rural coverage, it's far easier and more profitable
to set up a wireless network in the third world. At its worse, you
have military, government, business, humanitarian workers, and Peace
Corp volunteers who would like to keep in contact with HQ and home.
Even if a certain tower is unprofitable, the network itself is, and
that coverage is the reason.

> Ah, but did he have a cell phone? :P

Candice had the cell phone.

"Dragonlady" <dragonlady@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> <remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:dc635979-4ade-400b-81c6-17914baca486@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 15, 9:43 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > I hardly think that many average mexicans can even afford to pay for
>>> > the phones. So usage would primarily be by tourists.
>>
>>> You'd be surprised. Cell phones are used all around the world now:
>>
>> Cell networks definitely have replaced landlines in the 21st Century.
>> The infrastructure of landlines is too susceptible to terrorism or
>> theft of equipment and a single tower can cover a radii that would
>> have to be manually attached to a landline system. I can't even
>> imagine reliable landline service in a war torn region.
>
> True, but can't call phones be jammed like radio signals?


They're also susceptible to EMP, whereas a wired phone doesn't have to be
(but pretty much all of them are now.)

<remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 17, 6:01 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonl...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>> True, but can't call phones be jammed like radio signals?
>
> That would take constant energy, the signals are digital information
> and less prone to interference, and the jamming signal is easily
> triangulated. If anyone's that malicious, they shouldn't be surprised
> that a sidewinder missile is coming down their chimney instead of
> Santa Claus.

Realistically, the sidewinder missile goes down the chimney of an innocent
family in a country the terrorist isn't even from because the terrorist's
identity is unknown and Uncle Sam has to make it look like they're making
someone pay, so they blow up a building and say it was full of terrorists.

Most of the great evil done in the world is done in the name of fighting
evil.

On Dec 18, 7:12 pm, "Adam Corolla" <nos...@nospam03550265902.com>
wrote:

> Realistically, the sidewinder missile goes down the chimney of an innocent
> family in a country the terrorist isn't even from because the terrorist's
> identity is unknown and Uncle Sam has to make it look like they're making
> someone pay, so they blow up a building and say it was full of terrorists.

Yup, a real terrorist would run out of quickly run out of friends if
it really meant they'd get hit. Any success at nailing Qusay or that
Abu Sayef headchopper is merely that the continuous probability of
survival is (1-P)^number of missiles it took to get it right, or in
other words, your luck's gotta run out sometime.

> Most of the great evil done in the world is done in the name of fighting
> evil.

It's like all that liability insurance in The Incredibles!

On Dec 18, 7:07 pm, "Adam Corolla" <nos...@nospam03550265902.com>
wrote:

> They're also susceptible to EMP, whereas a wired phone doesn't have to be
> (but pretty much all of them are now.

With people getting new cell phones all the time, I don't think an EMP
matters.

<remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 18, 7:07 pm, "Adam Corolla" <nos...@nospam03550265902.com>
> wrote:
>
>> They're also susceptible to EMP, whereas a wired phone doesn't have to be
>> (but pretty much all of them are now.
>
> With people getting new cell phones all the time, I don't think an EMP
> matters.


You have no idea.

An EMP (or more accurately, a MEMP or Massive Electromagnetic Pulse) would
burn out all microchips in its range except specially shielded ones. That
doesn't just mean all existing cell phones would be turned into
paperweights, it means the cell towers would be as well, which is pretty
much moot because the power plants would all be out of commission so the
cell towers wouldn't have any power. CB radios, HAM radios, radios of any
kind would be dead. All electronics would be out. Cars made since the
1960s wouldn't run. Airplanes, motorboats, buses, trains, subways etc would
all be out. A rotary-dial land-line phone would work, except you'd have to
have a connection that didn't go through a switching station within range of
the MEMP--which would be pretty much impossibly unlikely. So, essentially,
there'd be no communication, no transportation and no power.

Guns would still work fine, though. At least until people ran out of
ammo--which, unless the relief efforts immediately forthcoming, I imagine
wouldn't take very long.