The header says it all.

MrSpook wrote:
> The header says it all.

....and thanks for all the posts boosting his hopeless quest, Spook.

Look, he never had a chance. He never had a chance because he didn't have a
large enough constituency. Politicians don't win or fail because of media
conspiracies, or because the people "don't get it", or anything. They win or
fail because they are espousing ideas which are supported by a majority (or
the largest minority) of people who care enough about politics to vote.

Me, I liked the idea of him winning because I conisder myself a libertarian,
but I never thought he would win. The central problem is he's a Rothbardian
type isolationist libertarian. His central plank was withdrawing American
armed forces from, well everywhere. The problem is, America is pretty
strictly divided into two camps- liberal left wingnuts who want a socialist
world government thing, so they won't support him because although he's
anti-war (good) he's also small government (very bad, since most lefties
derive their very livelihoods from feeding at the trough of an
ever-expanding government), and conservative right wingnuts who want the US
to be an independent nation and small government, which Paul favours, but
who want to fight wars, which Paul was resolutely against.

A slash-government hawk could win. Somebody who said "I'm going to cut the
size of government in half, while bombing Iran into a lake of glass", he
could win. But there's little support for a libertarian pacifist
isolationist.

Nice try though.

If Paul supporters are supporters of his economic ideas (Austrian School)
and constitutional, small government philosophy, rather than just being
anti-war Troofers, I'd suggest they need to be looking at getting involved
with creating a mass constituent base for libertarianism beyond the Paul
campaign, to give another candidate a voter base in some future election.
Start campaigning for small government sound money congressmen, and city
councillors, and state governors, and so on. When the massive economic crash
which is surely coming arrives, make sure to spread the message that it was
caused by central banking, corporate socialism, big government liberalism
and interventionist economics. Tell everyone you know why fiat money always
makes the rich richer and everybody else very much poorer. Get organised
against the North American Union, so you don't suffer the same collapse into
a soviet system we're experiencing in Europe.

Don't give up Spook. Paul was a stalking horse for libertarianism at a
national level. Now begins the long march through the Institutions. Heh.


Ian (a small government, lake of glass kinda guy)

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"Jaxtraw" <jax@knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote
> Look, he never had a chance. He never had a chance because he didn't
> have a
> large enough constituency.

IMO, the biggest reason for this is that the constituents
he already had went online and behaved as if they were
members of some religious cult soliciting people in
airports.

GeneK

MrSpook wrote:
> The header says it all.
>

Probably your fault.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:20:30 -0800, "GeneK"
<gene@genek_hates_spammers.com> wrote:

>"Jaxtraw" <jax@knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote
>> Look, he never had a chance. He never had a chance because he didn't
>> have a
>> large enough constituency.
>
>IMO, the biggest reason for this is that the constituents
>he already had went online and behaved as if they were
>members of some religious cult soliciting people in
>airports.

Oh, I'm sure that isn't true. True, Ron Paul's usenet fans were very
obnoxious and the thought crossed my mind that anyone they liked
wasn't someone I wanted to see in power, but there aren't all that
many people on usenet these days.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0500, ToolPackinMama
<philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:

>MrSpook wrote:
>> The header says it all.
>>
>
>Probably your fault.


Do you think 7of9's b**bies are rael?

"MrSpook" <never@home.world> wrote in message
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>
> The header says it all.

Ah, please. No thanks are necessary.

Marcovaldo wrote:
> "MrSpook" <never@home.world> wrote in message
> news:8895r3h5qf69h8lr0e8s6huioehrt262sr@4ax.com...
>> The header says it all.
>
> Ah, please. No thanks are necessary.
>
>
Why on earth do these people have to put this crap in the NewsGroups? I
am all for do not feed the trolls... but these are not your common
garden trolls... they post political crap in EVERY newsgroup they can see...

GRRRR

P.S. Marcovaldo... please don't *PLONK* me! I rather enjoy reading the
posts here.