I caught part of a rerun of an older season of SG1 today on SciFi-HD.
It was shown in standard-definition 4:3 aspect ratio. Yet all of the
episodes on DVD are in 16:9 aspect ratio. Which one is the altered
version?

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cricket, one who, on blundering badly, gets another chance - in
contradistinction to a batsman, who does not. Natural blunderers
should therefore always be bowlers. 'Slow bowler': one who opens the
bowling for an English cricket team. 'Fast bowler': one who bowls to
an Australian opening batsman. It will at once be apparent from the
preceding definitions that one man may be both a slow and a fast bowler
at the same time. Do not allow this to puzzle you - the game has its
own metaphysics as well as its ritual and its regalia.

"Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
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>I caught part of a rerun of an older season of SG1 today on SciFi-HD.
> It was shown in standard-definition 4:3 aspect ratio. Yet all of the
> episodes on DVD are in 16:9 aspect ratio. Which one is the altered
> version?
>


4:3


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>
> "The Superior Person's Book Of Words", by Peter Bowler: BOWLER: In
> cricket, one who, on blundering badly, gets another chance - in
> contradistinction to a batsman, who does not. Natural blunderers
> should therefore always be bowlers. 'Slow bowler': one who opens the
> bowling for an English cricket team. 'Fast bowler': one who bowls to
> an Australian opening batsman. It will at once be apparent from the
> preceding definitions that one man may be both a slow and a fast bowler
> at the same time. Do not allow this to puzzle you - the game has its
> own metaphysics as well as its ritual and its regalia.

GeekBoy wrote:
>
> "Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
> news:34qcr3d5t6niuoljdnflm58f04ncsbot4g@gordol.org ...
>> I caught part of a rerun of an older season of SG1 today on SciFi-HD.
>> It was shown in standard-definition 4:3 aspect ratio. Yet all of the
>> episodes on DVD are in 16:9 aspect ratio. Which one is the altered
>> version?
>>
>
>
> 4:3
...
I thought the first couple of seasons were filmed in 4:3?

"Ryan P." <rpaque@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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> GeekBoy wrote:
>>
>> "Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
>> news:34qcr3d5t6niuoljdnflm58f04ncsbot4g@gordol.org ...
>>> I caught part of a rerun of an older season of SG1 today on SciFi-HD.
>>> It was shown in standard-definition 4:3 aspect ratio. Yet all of the
>>> episodes on DVD are in 16:9 aspect ratio. Which one is the altered
>>> version?
>>>
>>
>>
>> 4:3
> ..
> I thought the first couple of seasons were filmed in 4:3?



Probably so since it was in the late 90s and wide screen TV was not very
common then, but he did mention older seasons, not first seasons.
I am not sure what they filmed the first two season in, but if it was film
then they can go back and redo them for wide screen if they wished.

Previously on alt.tv.stargate-sg1, GeekBoy said:

> Probably so since it was in the late 90s and wide screen TV was not very
> common then, but he did mention older seasons, not first seasons.
> I am not sure what they filmed the first two season in, but if it was film
> then they can go back and redo them for wide screen if they wished.

All of the episodes on the DVD sets I have are widescreen. Which is
why I asked which version is the altered one.

I'd like to know if I'm missing elements in the shots vertically on the
DVDs or if the syndicated broadcast is missing elements horizontally.

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In article <47ba7f3c$0$1089$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <abuse@zedz.net> wrote:

> "Ryan P." <rpaque@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:47b93040$0$30695$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > GeekBoy wrote:
> >>
> >> "Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
> >> news:34qcr3d5t6niuoljdnflm58f04ncsbot4g@gordol.org ...
> >>> I caught part of a rerun of an older season of SG1 today on SciFi-HD.
> >>> It was shown in standard-definition 4:3 aspect ratio. Yet all of the
> >>> episodes on DVD are in 16:9 aspect ratio. Which one is the altered
> >>> version?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> 4:3
> > ..
> > I thought the first couple of seasons were filmed in 4:3?
>
>
>
> Probably so since it was in the late 90s and wide screen TV was not very
> common then, but he did mention older seasons, not first seasons.
> I am not sure what they filmed the first two season in, but if it was film
> then they can go back and redo them for wide screen if they wished.

uh - by cropping off the top and bottom of the image. Bleah.

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"Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
news:a11mr3l3dkt3pjmea7bkq8snvii2b8pq6o@gordol.org ...
> All of the episodes on the DVD sets I have are widescreen. Which is
> why I asked which version is the altered one.
>
> I'd like to know if I'm missing elements in the shots vertically on the
> DVDs or if the syndicated broadcast is missing elements horizontally.

Can't confirm the accuracy as this is from IMDB, but SG1 was apparently shot
in:

16 mm (Seasons 1, 2 and 3)
35 mm (Seasons 4, 5, 6 and 7)
HD (Seasons 8, 9 and 10)

And the aspect ratio, presumably for all seasons, is 1.78 : 1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118480/technical

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"Matt" <matt@matt.com> wrote in message
news:e9Juj.1352$wc2.420@en-nntp-01.am2.easynews.com...
> "Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
> news:a11mr3l3dkt3pjmea7bkq8snvii2b8pq6o@gordol.org ...
>> All of the episodes on the DVD sets I have are widescreen. Which is
>> why I asked which version is the altered one.
>>
>> I'd like to know if I'm missing elements in the shots vertically on the
>> DVDs or if the syndicated broadcast is missing elements horizontally.
>
> Can't confirm the accuracy as this is from IMDB, but SG1 was apparently
> shot in:
>
> 16 mm (Seasons 1, 2 and 3)
> 35 mm (Seasons 4, 5, 6 and 7)
> HD (Seasons 8, 9 and 10)
>

16mm is less than half the width of 35 MM.
If you have wide screen with those first three seasons, then more than
likely it was altered to widescreen.

Now what is confusing is HD for Seasons 8, 9 and 10. There is no more
information, but it seems it would mean they went from a high resolution 35
mm film to a lower resolution digital cameras. 35 mm being something
comparable to 5300 x 4000 while HD has a maximum of 1920 x 1080



> And the aspect ratio, presumably for all seasons, is 1.78 : 1
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118480/technical
>
> --
> Matt

Previously on alt.tv.stargate-sg1, Matt said:

> Can't confirm the accuracy as this is from IMDB, but SG1 was apparently shot
> in:
>
> 16 mm (Seasons 1, 2 and 3)
> 35 mm (Seasons 4, 5, 6 and 7)
> HD (Seasons 8, 9 and 10)
>
> And the aspect ratio, presumably for all seasons, is 1.78 : 1

HD aspect ratio should be somewhere around 16:9, so if that info is
correct, then s8 and newer are probably the only ones shot 16:9, which
means that the DVDs for the earlier seasions are probably the altered
formats.

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"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then
I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve
them. So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and
unfairness of the universe." (Marcus Cole, B5 "A Late Delivery From
Avalon")

Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on alt.tv.stargate-sg1, Matt said:
>
>> Can't confirm the accuracy as this is from IMDB, but SG1 was
>> apparently shot in:
>>
>> 16 mm (Seasons 1, 2 and 3)
>> 35 mm (Seasons 4, 5, 6 and 7)
>> HD (Seasons 8, 9 and 10)
>>
>> And the aspect ratio, presumably for all seasons, is 1.78 : 1
>
> HD aspect ratio should be somewhere around 16:9, so if that info is
> correct, then s8 and newer are probably the only ones shot 16:9, which
> means that the DVDs for the earlier seasions are probably the altered
> formats.

SG-1 has been shot widescreen from the beginning, the only croped versions
are the 4:3 ones.

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