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Tim Bruening
02-16-2008, 07:59 AM
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At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
case?

Beth Smarr
02-16-2008, 08:32 AM
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> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
> didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
> case?
>


Kudoes for the reappearance of Cavanaugh, and was anyone really
surprised when he took the initiative that screwed everything? His ego
would not let him to less.

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Martin
02-16-2008, 08:34 AM
"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
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> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
> didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
> case?

Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to write this episode and find an
easy way to destroy the bridge, now meaning they can put "Atlantis in peril"
for the end of the season. Also, why didn't Carter dial Earth and warn them
as soon as the MALP showed them someone had hacked the bridge?

Not only that, but for security purposes, a more sensible approach would
have been to use a Jumper (as it was originally designed) meaning the Wraith
would have only been able to send Darts through and that would have made it
harder to take over the station (although they could destroy it)

The control room should have been totally isolated from the gates by space

Also, brings back my point I mentioned before about the SGC being flooded
with water, the actual gate room chamger should have had a quick vent system
installed (not just having to vent the entire base of air)

Why didn't they turn the gravity off?

There were a million things that were badly written.

Also it is a bad idea that the bridge does right back to the SGC (DUH!) it
should have gone to another off world site first.


I really wish they'd get some smart people on the writing to team as it is
rather annoyying seeming the "Dums and dumbers" running the show.

Anonymous
02-16-2008, 09:16 AM
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> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
> Earth in 30 minutes.

What is it like to be trapped in a series of wormholes for 30 minutes?
Would it be disorienting, stressful, insanity-inducing?

spike1@freenet.co.uk
02-16-2008, 09:30 AM
Anonymous <xor@hermetix.org> did eloquently scribble:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening wrote:

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>> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>> Earth in 30 minutes.

> What is it like to be trapped in a series of wormholes for 30 minutes?
> Would it be disorienting, stressful, insanity-inducing?

Considering the way the stargates work...
and the fact that you're not concious whilst disassembled in the matter
stream...

When teal'c was trapped in the gate after the malfunction a few years ago,
when they finally rescued him, he was unaware any time had past.

And he'd been cooped up in there for days.

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Beth Smarr
02-16-2008, 10:13 AM
spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:
> Anonymous <xor@hermetix.org> did eloquently scribble:
>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening wrote:
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>>> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>> Earth in 30 minutes.
>
>> What is it like to be trapped in a series of wormholes for 30 minutes?
>> Would it be disorienting, stressful, insanity-inducing?
>
> Considering the way the stargates work...
> and the fact that you're not concious whilst disassembled in the matter
> stream...
>
> When teal'c was trapped in the gate after the malfunction a few years ago,
> when they finally rescued him, he was unaware any time had past.
>
> And he'd been cooped up in there for days.
>

Besides, didn't Rodney say the trip to Earth would take thirty minutes?
Then the trip to Midway would take fifteen.

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Justin Kase
02-16-2008, 11:08 AM
Martin wrote:
> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> news:47B6DE16.B7E2F2E@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
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>> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>> didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>> case?
>
> Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to write this episode and find an
> easy way to destroy the bridge, now meaning they can put "Atlantis in peril"
> for the end of the season. Also, why didn't Carter dial Earth and warn them
> as soon as the MALP showed them someone had hacked the bridge?

Answered in the Episode. Too much of a power drain on the ZPM to dial
the Milky Way galaxy from the Pegasus galaxy. Must Conserve Power.

Andrew Venor
02-16-2008, 11:46 AM
Tim Bruening wrote:
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> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration?

I think Rodney said it best in the episode The Eye.

"If you hadn't noticed, I'm an arrogant man who thinks all my plans will
work."

> > Why didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
> case?
>

Or I suppose they could have set it so that the gate room could have
been immediately locked down and vented to vacuum if the Wraith came
through the gate.

ALV

Martin
02-16-2008, 12:11 PM
"Justin Kase" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
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> Martin wrote:
>> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>> news:47B6DE16.B7E2F2E@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
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>>> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>>> didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>>> case?
>>
>> Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to write this episode and find an
>> easy way to destroy the bridge, now meaning they can put "Atlantis in
>> peril" for the end of the season. Also, why didn't Carter dial Earth and
>> warn them as soon as the MALP showed them someone had hacked the bridge?
>
> Answered in the Episode. Too much of a power drain on the ZPM to dial the
> Milky Way galaxy from the Pegasus galaxy. Must Conserve Power.

No, but for such an emergency dialing Earth to warn them would have been
acceptable.

Joetheone
02-16-2008, 02:17 PM
"Andrew Venor" <alvenor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration?
>
> I think Rodney said it best in the episode The Eye.
>
> "If you hadn't noticed, I'm an arrogant man who thinks all my plans will
> work."
>
> > > Why didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just
> > > in
>> case?
>>
>
> Or I suppose they could have set it so that the gate room could have been
> immediately locked down and vented to vacuum if the Wraith came through
> the gate.
>
Except the gateroom seems to be the whole center of the station. Probably to
get jumpers in.
Once again, lousy planning almost gets everybody killed.
Why drag 50 gates into space, and leave one unguarded on a planet? And no
'just in case' iris?
All in all, though, a good, classic, Stargate bang-bang-shoot-em-up.
I liked it.

Jeffrey Kaplan
02-16-2008, 04:39 PM
Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, Martin said:

> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> news:47B6DE16.B7E2F2E@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
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> Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to write this episode and find an
> easy way to destroy the bridge, now meaning they can put "Atlantis in peril"
> for the end of the season. Also, why didn't Carter dial Earth and warn them
> as soon as the MALP showed them someone had hacked the bridge?

Because it would have made sense?

> Not only that, but for security purposes, a more sensible approach would
> have been to use a Jumper (as it was originally designed) meaning the Wraith
> would have only been able to send Darts through and that would have made it
> harder to take over the station (although they could destroy it)

How would that have been any more secure to somehow enforce the
requirement to travel via jumper-sized transport?

> The control room should have been totally isolated from the gates by space

And how would travelers then get from the gate room to the habitation
area?

> Also, brings back my point I mentioned before about the SGC being flooded
> with water, the actual gate room chamger should have had a quick vent system
> installed (not just having to vent the entire base of air)

They didn't have to vent the entire station. They vented selected
portions. It just so happens that they selected to vent everything
except the control room.

> Why didn't they turn the gravity off?

Do you really think that turning off the gravity would phase a species
that spends the bulk of their time in space rather than on a planet?
Killing the gravity would more likely cause problems for the Humans
than the Wraith.

> There were a million things that were badly written.

A million and one, if we include your complaints. :)

> Also it is a bad idea that the bridge does right back to the SGC (DUH!) it
> should have gone to another off world site first.

The entire point of the bridge is to travel from Atlantis to Earth
(DUH!).

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Martin
02-16-2008, 06:35 PM
"Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
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> Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, Martin said:
>
>> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>> news:47B6DE16.B7E2F2E@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
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>> Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to write this episode and find an
>> easy way to destroy the bridge, now meaning they can put "Atlantis in
>> peril"
>> for the end of the season. Also, why didn't Carter dial Earth and warn
>> them
>> as soon as the MALP showed them someone had hacked the bridge?
>
> Because it would have made sense?
>
>> Not only that, but for security purposes, a more sensible approach would
>> have been to use a Jumper (as it was originally designed) meaning the
>> Wraith
>> would have only been able to send Darts through and that would have made
>> it
>> harder to take over the station (although they could destroy it)
>
> How would that have been any more secure to somehow enforce the
> requirement to travel via jumper-sized transport?
>
>> The control room should have been totally isolated from the gates by
>> space
>
> And how would travelers then get from the gate room to the habitation
> area?
>
>> Also, brings back my point I mentioned before about the SGC being flooded
>> with water, the actual gate room chamger should have had a quick vent
>> system
>> installed (not just having to vent the entire base of air)
>
> They didn't have to vent the entire station. They vented selected
> portions. It just so happens that they selected to vent everything
> except the control room.
>
>> Why didn't they turn the gravity off?
>
> Do you really think that turning off the gravity would phase a species
> that spends the bulk of their time in space rather than on a planet?
> Killing the gravity would more likely cause problems for the Humans
> than the Wraith.
>
>> There were a million things that were badly written.
>
> A million and one, if we include your complaints. :)
>
>> Also it is a bad idea that the bridge does right back to the SGC (DUH!)
>> it
>> should have gone to another off world site first.
>
> The entire point of the bridge is to travel from Atlantis to Earth
> (DUH!).
>
> --
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> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol


Jeffrey (nice name by the way)

1. Agreed that dialling Earth would have made sense (**** writing)

2. Why allow Midway station and its crew to mix with travellers? That makes
no sense. The station crew could have been separated from the main station
and transferred by either Asgard beaming technology or rings or EVA. The
idea of Midway is to prevent diseases being transferred to Earth, so why
risk infecting human crews on Midway?

3. Can you explain how Wraith are better able to function in Zero G than
humans?

4. My complaints are that the writing is ****. This is a discussion group
and your problem is?.........

Eva
02-16-2008, 07:02 PM
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> 2. Why allow Midway station and its crew to mix with travellers? That
> makes no sense. The station crew could have been separated from the main
> station and transferred by either Asgard beaming technology or rings or
> EVA. The idea of Midway is to prevent diseases being transferred to Earth,
> so why risk infecting human crews on Midway?

What didn't make sense to me is the length of the quarantine. One day is
pretty pointless. In fact, why bother at all? I do not recall a routine
quarantine applied to SG teams in our galaxy.

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Joetheone
02-16-2008, 07:30 PM
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>
>> 2. Why allow Midway station and its crew to mix with travellers? That
>> makes no sense. The station crew could have been separated from the main
>> station and transferred by either Asgard beaming technology or rings or
>> EVA. The idea of Midway is to prevent diseases being transferred to
>> Earth, so why risk infecting human crews on Midway?
>
> What didn't make sense to me is the length of the quarantine. One day is
> pretty pointless. In fact, why bother at all? I do not recall a routine
> quarantine applied to SG teams in our galaxy.
>
> Eva
> --
Well, I think we have to agree that, if this were 'real life,' the entire
population of Earth would be dead of some bacteria or virus brought back by
a stargate team, and the surface of the planet probably turned into some
multi colored goo (or maybe that Space Kudzu they brought back)years ago.
The Midway quarentine was just a sloppy plot device to get them to stop. I
didn't see any medical team checking them, either. An MRI machine makes more
sense than a DVD player.
But, what the hell.

Martin
02-16-2008, 07:44 PM
"Joetheone" <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote in message
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> "Eva" <eva1removethis@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> <snip>
>>
>>> 2. Why allow Midway station and its crew to mix with travellers? That
>>> makes no sense. The station crew could have been separated from the main
>>> station and transferred by either Asgard beaming technology or rings or
>>> EVA. The idea of Midway is to prevent diseases being transferred to
>>> Earth, so why risk infecting human crews on Midway?
>>
>> What didn't make sense to me is the length of the quarantine. One day is
>> pretty pointless. In fact, why bother at all? I do not recall a routine
>> quarantine applied to SG teams in our galaxy.
>>
>> Eva
>> --
> Well, I think we have to agree that, if this were 'real life,' the entire
> population of Earth would be dead of some bacteria or virus brought back
> by a stargate team, and the surface of the planet probably turned into
> some multi colored goo (or maybe that Space Kudzu they brought back)years
> ago. The Midway quarentine was just a sloppy plot device to get them to
> stop. I didn't see any medical team checking them, either. An MRI machine
> makes more sense than a DVD player.
> But, what the hell.

But in fairness, the humans on Atlantis would be affected by any disease and
from what I remember anyone returning to Earth gets a full medical from the
SGC? But you are correct in that in the real "world" there would have been
an awful lot of bacteria sent back to Earth regardless.

Which is why I've never really bought into the idea that people would be
allowed ot return to the SGA. For the puposes of a TV show you have to roll
with it I guess, although to get round this the writers could have introdued
a form of "bio filter" the the gate system (as per Star Trek)

Joetheone
02-16-2008, 08:10 PM
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>>>>>> > 1
>>>>>> > 1
>>>>>> > 1
>>>>>> > 1
>>>>>> > 1
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>>>>>> > 1
>>>>>> > 1
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>>>>>> > 1
>>>>>> > 1
>>>>>> > 1
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> 2. Why allow Midway station and its crew to mix with travellers? That
>>>> makes no sense. The station crew could have been separated from the
>>>> main station and transferred by either Asgard beaming technology or
>>>> rings or EVA. The idea of Midway is to prevent diseases being
>>>> transferred to Earth, so why risk infecting human crews on Midway?
>>>
>>> What didn't make sense to me is the length of the quarantine. One day is
>>> pretty pointless. In fact, why bother at all? I do not recall a routine
>>> quarantine applied to SG teams in our galaxy.
>>>
>>> Eva
>>> --
>> Well, I think we have to agree that, if this were 'real life,' the entire
>> population of Earth would be dead of some bacteria or virus brought back
>> by a stargate team, and the surface of the planet probably turned into
>> some multi colored goo (or maybe that Space Kudzu they brought
>> back)years ago. The Midway quarentine was just a sloppy plot device to
>> get them to stop. I didn't see any medical team checking them, either. An
>> MRI machine makes more sense than a DVD player.
>> But, what the hell.
>
> But in fairness, the humans on Atlantis would be affected by any disease
> and from what I remember anyone returning to Earth gets a full medical
> from the SGC? But you are correct in that in the real "world" there would
> have been an awful lot of bacteria sent back to Earth regardless.
>
> Which is why I've never really bought into the idea that people would be
> allowed ot return to the SGA. For the puposes of a TV show you have to
> roll with it I guess, although to get round this the writers could have
> introdued a form of "bio filter" the the gate system (as per Star Trek)
>
Any science fiction takes a LOT of handwaving. Space is not an apple we can
follow a worm though, nor a string we can bring the ends together on. I hate
doctor shows. I'd rather see them go out among the stars and blow stuff up.
And crack jokes.

Jeffrey Kaplan
02-17-2008, 01:23 AM
Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, Martin said:

> "Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
> news:ekler35jcq4pv0vukjmno49in99j3s2h1b@gordol.org ...
> > Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, Martin said:
> >
> >> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> >> news:47B6DE16.B7E2F2E@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
> >> > Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
> >> >
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> > 1
> >> >
> 2. Why allow Midway station and its crew to mix with travellers? That makes
> no sense. The station crew could have been separated from the main station
> and transferred by either Asgard beaming technology or rings or EVA. The
> idea of Midway is to prevent diseases being transferred to Earth, so why
> risk infecting human crews on Midway?

The idea of Midway was not originally for quarantine, but as a
transition between the two gate systems. IIRC, the 24 hour quarantine
was added later.

> 3. Can you explain how Wraith are better able to function in Zero G than
> humans?

I just figure that since they spend most of their time in ships rather
than on a planet, that they'd be better in zero G.

> 4. My complaints are that the writing is ****. This is a discussion group
> and your problem is?.........

That your suggestions made about as much sense as what you were
complaining about.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

"Eternal nothingness is fine if you happen to be dressed for it." Woody
Allen

Martin
02-17-2008, 06:20 AM
"Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
news:n6kfr3plv1nq06n7ij7blpmpo7nf0qlmbg@gordol.org ...
> Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, Martin said:
>
>> "Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message
>> news:ekler35jcq4pv0vukjmno49in99j3s2h1b@gordol.org ...
>> > Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, Martin said:
>> >
>> >> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>> >> news:47B6DE16.B7E2F2E@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>> >> > Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> > 1
>> >> >
>> 2. Why allow Midway station and its crew to mix with travellers? That
>> makes
>> no sense. The station crew could have been separated from the main
>> station
>> and transferred by either Asgard beaming technology or rings or EVA. The
>> idea of Midway is to prevent diseases being transferred to Earth, so why
>> risk infecting human crews on Midway?
>
> The idea of Midway was not originally for quarantine, but as a
> transition between the two gate systems. IIRC, the 24 hour quarantine
> was added later.
>
>> 3. Can you explain how Wraith are better able to function in Zero G than
>> humans?
>
> I just figure that since they spend most of their time in ships rather
> than on a planet, that they'd be better in zero G.
>
>> 4. My complaints are that the writing is ****. This is a discussion group
>> and your problem is?.........
>
> That your suggestions made about as much sense as what you were
> complaining about.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

You still haven't answered the question about the Wraith being better in
Zero. Since when so we see them spending time in Zero G? And are they all
created with magnetic feet anf jet packs then? Because I have'nt seen any.

Your suggestions don't make any sense at all.

puzzlrr
02-17-2008, 06:45 AM
"Joetheone" <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote in message
news:bFGtj.4302$7d1.3873@news01.roc.ny...
>
> "Andrew Venor" <alvenor@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:cM-dneO0qYadjiranZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Tim Bruening wrote:
>>> Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>>
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>>>
>>> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration?
>>
>> I think Rodney said it best in the episode The Eye.
>>
>> "If you hadn't noticed, I'm an arrogant man who thinks all my plans will
>> work."
>>
>> > > Why didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just
>> > > in
>>> case?
>>>
>>
>> Or I suppose they could have set it so that the gate room could have been
>> immediately locked down and vented to vacuum if the Wraith came through
>> the gate.
>>
> Except the gateroom seems to be the whole center of the station. Probably
> to get jumpers in.
> Once again, lousy planning almost gets everybody killed.
> Why drag 50 gates into space, and leave one unguarded on a planet? And no
> 'just in case' iris?
> All in all, though, a good, classic, Stargate bang-bang-shoot-em-up.
> I liked it.
>

I thought the Wraith took the gate from orbit and put it on the planet.
When they did the visual of the gate, it was in orbit, then they switched
and said it was on an uninhabited planet. But I didn't record this episode,
so I could be wrong.

Puzz

puzzlrr
02-17-2008, 06:45 AM
"Justin Kase" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
news:47b70a27$0$16674$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Martin wrote:
>> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>> news:47B6DE16.B7E2F2E@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>>> Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>>
>>> 1
>>> 1
>>> 1
>>> 1
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>>>
>>> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>>> didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>>> case?
>>
>> Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to write this episode and find an
>> easy way to destroy the bridge, now meaning they can put "Atlantis in
>> peril" for the end of the season. Also, why didn't Carter dial Earth and
>> warn them as soon as the MALP showed them someone had hacked the bridge?
>
> Answered in the Episode. Too much of a power drain on the ZPM to dial the
> Milky Way galaxy from the Pegasus galaxy. Must Conserve Power.

It would take a lot of power to send a person through, but not so much a
small data-burst that would have alerted Earth to their suspicions.

Puzz

Fred Ellis
02-17-2008, 10:10 AM
puzzlrr wrote:
>
> (Snipped)
>
> I thought the Wraith took the gate from orbit and put it on the planet.
> When they did the visual of the gate, it was in orbit, then they switched
> and said it was on an uninhabited planet. But I didn't record this episode,
> so I could be wrong.
>
> Puzz

No, they did not. The first scene where you see the Wraith, they are
already on the planet. There is a long camera shot of the planet's
surface with the gate, the DHD, and the Wraith ship in view. The Wraith
are walking toward the gate and the leader says "This is it. Get to
work."


Fred Ellis
--
Who do you serve. . . . And who do you trust?
(To e-mail me, remove the X from my address)

David V. Loewe, Jr
02-17-2008, 12:14 PM
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

>Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>
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>At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>case?

Spoilers for Midway? The US Navy wins! The IJN loses!
--
"Why is it, Scott, that we always have to respect their cultural context?
Why is it that they never seem to respect ours?"
President John P. Ryan in Executive Orders

Joetheone
02-17-2008, 12:43 PM
"puzzlrr" <puzzzlrrr@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:B7Vtj.806$pl4.470@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net. ..
>
> "Joetheone" <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote in message
> news:bFGtj.4302$7d1.3873@news01.roc.ny...
>>
>> "Andrew Venor" <alvenor@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:cM-dneO0qYadjiranZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Tim Bruening wrote:
>>>> Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>>>
>>>> 1
>>>> 1
>>>> 1
>>>> 1
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>>>> At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>>> Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>>> Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>>> think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration?
>>>
>>> I think Rodney said it best in the episode The Eye.
>>>
>>> "If you hadn't noticed, I'm an arrogant man who thinks all my plans will
>>> work."
>>>
>>> > > Why didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just
>>> > > in
>>>> case?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or I suppose they could have set it so that the gate room could have
>>> been immediately locked down and vented to vacuum if the Wraith came
>>> through the gate.
>>>
>> Except the gateroom seems to be the whole center of the station. Probably
>> to get jumpers in.
>> Once again, lousy planning almost gets everybody killed.
>> Why drag 50 gates into space, and leave one unguarded on a planet? And no
>> 'just in case' iris?
>> All in all, though, a good, classic, Stargate bang-bang-shoot-em-up.
>> I liked it.
>>
>
> I thought the Wraith took the gate from orbit and put it on the planet.
> When they did the visual of the gate, it was in orbit, then they switched
> and said it was on an uninhabited planet. But I didn't record this
> episode, so I could be wrong.
>
> Puzz
>
>
I didn't record it, either, but I thought it was on the planet all the time.
rodney said that "XX gate was on an uninhabited planet," and I don't think
they'd send the MALP into space.
I don't get it anyway, because they'd only need one gate at the edge of the
Galaxy, and the others to cover the intergalactic space.

Joetheone
02-17-2008, 12:44 PM
"Fred Ellis" <fkellis@sticxx.net> wrote in message
news:47B84E2F.4FD6@sticxx.net...
> puzzlrr wrote:
>>
>> (Snipped)
>>
>> I thought the Wraith took the gate from orbit and put it on the planet.
>> When they did the visual of the gate, it was in orbit, then they switched
>> and said it was on an uninhabited planet. But I didn't record this
>> episode,
>> so I could be wrong.
>>
>> Puzz
>
> No, they did not. The first scene where you see the Wraith, they are
> already on the planet. There is a long camera shot of the planet's
> surface with the gate, the DHD, and the Wraith ship in view. The Wraith
> are walking toward the gate and the leader says "This is it. Get to
> work."
>
>
> Fred Ellis
> --
That's right.

Joetheone
02-17-2008, 12:46 PM
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
news:0lqgr3pi6pjebjcmpo5f0rtpli7ul3uadn@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening
> <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>
>>Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>
>>1
>>1
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>>
>>At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>>didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>>case?
>
> Spoilers for Midway? The US Navy wins! The IJN loses!
> --
Thank you for using the spoiler space.
Been hell to pay otherwise.

Joetheone
02-17-2008, 12:47 PM
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
news:0lqgr3pi6pjebjcmpo5f0rtpli7ul3uadn@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening
> <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>
>>Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>
>>1
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>>
>>At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>>didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>>case?
>
> Spoilers for Midway? The US Navy wins! The IJN loses!
> --
Are the next two episodes "Wake" and Guam"?

Jeffrey Kaplan
02-17-2008, 04:38 PM
Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, Martin said:

> > I just figure that since they spend most of their time in ships rather
> > than on a planet, that they'd be better in zero G.
>
> You still haven't answered the question about the Wraith being better in
> Zero. Since when so we see them spending time in Zero G? And are they all
> created with magnetic feet anf jet packs then? Because I have'nt seen any.
>
> Your suggestions don't make any sense at all.

What part of "I just figure" do you not understand?

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

Tips for the Innocent Bystander: 24. If you are spending the night in
a spooky old house on a dare, don't sneak away to another part of the
house for romantic interludes with your Significant Other. Wait until
you can get a nice, clean, safe motel room.

Tim Bruening
02-17-2008, 05:41 PM
Andrew Venor wrote:

> Tim Bruening wrote:
> > Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
> >
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
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> > 1
> > 1
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> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> > 1
> >
> > At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
> > Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
> > Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
> > think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration?
>
> I think Rodney said it best in the episode The Eye.
>
> "If you hadn't noticed, I'm an arrogant man who thinks all my plans will
> work."

Okay, why didn't anyone else insist on greater safeguards?

Justin Kase
02-17-2008, 05:51 PM
Tim Bruening wrote:
>
> Andrew Venor wrote:
>
>> Tim Bruening wrote:

>>
>> "If you hadn't noticed, I'm an arrogant man who thinks all my plans will
>> work."
> -R.McKay

> Okay, why didn't anyone else insist on greater safeguards?

Because Rodney is an arrogant man who thinks that all his plans will
work. Question him, and you get grief.

Sometimes it's best not to wrestle with that pig.
You'll only get dirty, and...
the pig likes it
;-)

Andrew Venor
02-17-2008, 06:37 PM
Joetheone wrote:
> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:0lqgr3pi6pjebjcmpo5f0rtpli7ul3uadn@4ax.com...
>
>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening
>><tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>>
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
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>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>
>>>At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>>Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>>Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>>think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>>>didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>>>case?
>>
>>Spoilers for Midway? The US Navy wins! The IJN loses!
>>--
>
> Are the next two episodes "Wake" and Guam"?
>
>

Wake and Guam were earlier episodes.

ALV

David V. Loewe, Jr
02-18-2008, 10:21 AM
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:47:50 GMT, "Joetheone"
<joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote:

>"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening
>> <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>
>>>Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>>
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
>>>1
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>>>
>>>At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>>Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>>Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>>think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>>>didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>>>case?
>>
>> Spoilers for Midway? The US Navy wins! The IJN loses!
>> --
>Are the next two episodes "Wake" and Guam"?

The next episode is "Guadalcanal." After that is the highly
anticipated "Central Pacific Raids."
--
"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend
Do it in the name of heaven and you can justify it in the end
There won't be any trumpets blowing come the Judgement Day
And on the bloody morning after....One Tin Soldier rides away."
One Tin Soldier - The Legend Of Billy Jack

David V. Loewe, Jr
02-18-2008, 10:24 AM
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:44:51 GMT, "Joetheone"
<joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote:

>"Fred Ellis" <fkellis@sticxx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> (Snipped)
>>>
>>> I thought the Wraith took the gate from orbit and put it on the planet.
>>> When they did the visual of the gate, it was in orbit, then they switched
>>> and said it was on an uninhabited planet. But I didn't record this
>>> episode,
>>> so I could be wrong.

>> No, they did not. The first scene where you see the Wraith, they are
>> already on the planet. There is a long camera shot of the planet's
>> surface with the gate, the DHD, and the Wraith ship in view. The Wraith
>> are walking toward the gate and the leader says "This is it. Get to
>> work."

>That's right.

I believe you also get a shot of the gate activating and then shutting
down before the Wraith Leader proclaims "This is it."
--
"Anybody that wants the presidency so much he'll spend two years
organising and campaigning for it is not to be trusted with the
office."
- David Broder

Joetheone
02-18-2008, 11:33 AM
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
news:re8jr35ffvbh1g01igcfllmkv2f44obdpo@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:47:50 GMT, "Joetheone"
> <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote:
>
>>"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening
>>> <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>>>
>>>>1
>>>>1
>>>>1
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>>>>1
>>>>1
>>>>
>>>>At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>>>Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>>>Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>>>think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>>>>didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>>>>case?
>>>
>>> Spoilers for Midway? The US Navy wins! The IJN loses!
>>> --
>>Are the next two episodes "Wake" and Guam"?
>
> The next episode is "Guadalcanal." After that is the highly
> anticipated "Central Pacific Raids."
> --
Leading up, of course, to the season ending cliffhanger, "Saipan."

Anonymous
02-18-2008, 02:51 PM
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:33:37 +0000, Joetheone wrote:

> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:re8jr35ffvbh1g01igcfllmkv2f44obdpo@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:47:50 GMT, "Joetheone"
>> <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening
>>>> <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
>>>>>
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
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>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>1
>>>>>
>>>>>At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
>>>>>Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
>>>>>Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
>>>>>think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
>>>>>didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
>>>>>case?
>>>>
>>>> Spoilers for Midway? The US Navy wins! The IJN loses!
>>>> --
>>>Are the next two episodes "Wake" and Guam"?
>>
>> The next episode is "Guadalcanal." After that is the highly
>> anticipated "Central Pacific Raids."
>> --
> Leading up, of course, to the season ending cliffhanger, "Saipan."

Where wraith mothers throw their wraith babies off cliffs to keep them
from being turned into humans by the invading Atlantis crew.

Tim Bruening
02-21-2008, 06:20 AM
Anonymous wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:33:37 +0000, Joetheone wrote:
>
> > "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:re8jr35ffvbh1g01igcfllmkv2f44obdpo@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:47:50 GMT, "Joetheone"
> >> <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:59:02 -0800, Tim Bruening
> >>>> <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Spoilers for Stargate: Atlantis: Midway:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At the start of this episode, Rodney McKay is boasting about the new
> >>>>>Stargate Bridge system which makes it possible to go from Atlantis to
> >>>>>Earth in 30 minutes. He claims that no iris is needed. What made him
> >>>>>think that the system was invulnerable to enemy infiltration? Why
> >>>>>didn't the SGC insist that there be irises on the Stargates just in
> >>>>>case?
> >>>>
> >>>> Spoilers for Midway? The US Navy wins! The IJN loses!
> >>>> --
> >>>Are the next two episodes "Wake" and Guam"?
> >>
> >> The next episode is "Guadalcanal." After that is the highly
> >> anticipated "Central Pacific Raids."
> >> --
> > Leading up, of course, to the season ending cliffhanger, "Saipan."
>
> Where wraith mothers throw their wraith babies off cliffs to keep them
> from being turned into humans by the invading Atlantis crew.

Holy Cathage!!!!!!

David Chapman
02-21-2008, 07:04 AM
From the Collected Witterings of puzzlrr, volume 23:
> "Justin Kase" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:47b70a27$0$16674$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>> Answered in the Episode. Too much of a power drain on the ZPM to dial
>> the Milky Way galaxy from the Pegasus galaxy. Must Conserve Power.
>
> It would take a lot of power to send a person through, but not so much a
> small data-burst that would have alerted Earth to their suspicions.

Nope. It takes a huge amount of power just to establish the connection, let
alone maintain a wormhole.

David Chapman
02-21-2008, 07:07 AM
From the Collected Witterings of Martin, volume 23:

> But in fairness, the humans on Atlantis would be affected by any disease
> and from what I remember anyone returning to Earth gets a full medical
> from the SGC? But you are correct in that in the real "world" there would
> have been an awful lot of bacteria sent back to Earth regardless.

Unless you take the position that gate traffic has *already* disseminated
disease bacteria among all planets in the gate network. This is not
illogical, given that neither the Goa'uld nor the Ancients had even a
minimal quarantine procedure and were sending slaves/settlers hither and
yon.

David Chapman
02-21-2008, 07:18 AM
From the Collected Witterings of Joetheone, volume 23:

> Why drag 50 gates into space, and leave one unguarded on a planet?

Without the bridge macro, it's just an ordinary gate. There's no way to
identify it as part of the bridge unless you've had access to the SGA or SGC
dialling computer, and no way to use it to make a bridge transit without the
coordinates of *all* the gates between Atlantis and Midway.

If you think about it, guarding the gate or relocating it to orbit would
only serve to attract unwanted attention to it.

puzzlrr
02-21-2008, 08:11 AM
"David Chapman" <jeditojanen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fpjslv$ojt$8$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> From the Collected Witterings of puzzlrr, volume 23:

LOL!

>> "Justin Kase" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
>> news:47b70a27$0$16674$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>>> Answered in the Episode. Too much of a power drain on the ZPM to dial
>>> the Milky Way galaxy from the Pegasus galaxy. Must Conserve Power.
>>
>> It would take a lot of power to send a person through, but not so much a
>> small data-burst that would have alerted Earth to their suspicions.
>
> Nope. It takes a huge amount of power just to establish the connection,
> let alone maintain a wormhole.
>

Yes, but only if you're sending a person through. It was established in the
'Letters from Pegasus', that it wouldn't take a lot of power to send a
message.

Puzz