One's a one hundred and eight year old jaffa, several decades past
retirement. For him, duty, honor, code, the greater good are not mere words
but principles he lives for, kills for, even willing to die for. He knows
the rules and is guided by them.

One's a young hot-shot, hot-tempered satedan. He's a lone wolf, a maverick.
He doesn't follow the rules. He feels rules are made to be broken. He dances
to his own drummer then beats up the drummer and beats the drum himself. He
has poor impulse control.

Now they are trapped, surrounded by Wraith, will they be able to survive--if
they don't kill each other first?

Yes, the 1980s Buddy Cop flick. Roger Ebert called them the "Wunza Movie"
(e.g., one's an LA cop / one's a NY cop, one's Northern cop / one's a
Southern cop, one's American / one's Russian, one's human / one's canine,
one's human / one's alien, one's living / one's undead, etc.). In the
tradition of the Buddy Cop flick, "Midway" practically writes itself, right
down to:
--The initial bad first impression
--One side trying to be cordial and blown off
--The initial sparring / fencing / shooting / sporting / etc. match
--The obligatory betting on the outcome of said match
--Said match interrupted by a superior officer
--Getting caught in a Crisis and facing ... a Common Foe
--And developing grudging respect as each saves the other's life
--And the bonus of saving the life of a judgemental VIP.

The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the formula
and not too much of a twist in said formula.

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. Oh and it showed machine guns are simply not all that "romantic" a
weapon. There's something far more cinematic about hand-to-hand, melee
weapons, polearms, even single-shot weapons (Teal'c and Ronon looked far
"cooler" using, respectively, a zat and Ronon's gun). Just standing there
pointing and sweeping ... blah.

In article <tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the formula
> and not too much of a twist in said formula.

True, but the combination was such fun 8-)

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote in
news:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com:
> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>

I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a very
long time...


-==Kensu==-

>
> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the formula
> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>
>

It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes indeed!

"A Watcher" <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com...
>
> >
> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
formula
> > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >
> >
>
> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
indeed!
>
During the tour of the city Carter gave Teal'c the first time Teal'c said
"Indeed" Amanda Tapping gave this half-smile and it looked almost as if it
was AT reacting out of character to the return of an old friend in CJ
instead of Sam reacting to Teal'c. Made me wonder if the script called for
the smile or if AT was just happy to be working with CJ again.

Jason

In article <Xns9A46D2CE5D257kensuhotmailcom@216.170.153.147>,
Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com:
> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >
>
> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a very
> long time...
>
>
> -==Kensu==-

Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.

And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
forgetting about it.

Nice to see they still have the Stargate SG1 sets.

Isn't Midway station weightless?

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying
> she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> forgetting about it.

Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.

> Isn't Midway station weightless?

The last time we saw it, it wasn't fully constructed. It certainly
wasn't ready then for the routine shuttling of passengers back and
forth from Atlantis to Earth. No doubt they are using some Asgardian
artificial gravity tech.

-- jayembee

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Yes, the 1980s Buddy Cop flick. Roger Ebert called them the "Wunza Movie"
> (e.g., one's an LA cop / one's a NY cop, one's Northern cop / one's a
> Southern cop, one's American / one's Russian, one's human / one's canine,
> one's human / one's alien, one's living / one's undead, etc.).

LMAO! I new it would be in that vein, and yet I still liked it better than
the previous few episodes.

Puzz ~ leave it to Ebert to be a critic with a sense of humor. I hope he
pulls through his latest setback

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-460872.00311317022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...

> Isn't Midway station weightless?


In a previous episode, Carter was at the station with Dr. Lee. It was
weightless then, but she turned on the artificial gravity and Dr. Lee took a
header onto the floor. Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.


Puzz

In article <Xns9A471E99FB3C6jayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130>,
jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying
> > she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> > forgetting about it.
>
> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.

Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks or
months was in the first place.
>
> > Isn't Midway station weightless?
>
> The last time we saw it, it wasn't fully constructed. It certainly
> wasn't ready then for the routine shuttling of passengers back and
> forth from Atlantis to Earth. No doubt they are using some Asgardian
> artificial gravity tech.

Or they forgot or decided it was too expensive or remembered that last
time they did weightless it looked as bad as LOST IN SPACE did in 1964.
:)

Oh, and how has guy in charge not met Ronon before? He was there when
the place was still weightless, he's complaining about still being
there, and Ronon has made at least 2 trips before . . .

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <C9Vtj.809$pl4.683@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,
"puzzlrr" <puzzzlrrr@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-460872.00311317022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
>
> > Isn't Midway station weightless?
>
>
> In a previous episode, Carter was at the station with Dr. Lee. It was
> weightless then, but she turned on the artificial gravity and Dr. Lee took a
> header onto the floor. Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
>
>
> Puzz

Ah, okay, I just remembered them weightless. Thanks!

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-460872.00311317022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <Xns9A46D2CE5D257kensuhotmailcom@216.170.153.147>,
> Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> >
>>
>> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
>> very
>> long time...
>>
>>
>> -==Kensu==-
>
> Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
> although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.

Indeed.

Not too much deep thought required, and in fact kinda messes it up if you
think on it too much. It's comfort food, familiar, easy-going. There was a
reason there was a bazillion of that kind of flick made in the '80s. It was
to guy flicks what the romcom was for gal flicks.

> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
> was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> forgetting about it.

To be honest, I had forgotten about the broken leg too.

> Nice to see they still have the Stargate SG1 sets.
>
> Isn't Midway station weightless?

As others have mentioned, last time it was under construction, but we were
still able to POWER of the FULLY-ARMED Death-erm Midway station.

-- Ken from Chicago

In article
<ANIM8Rfsk-460872.00311317022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
> was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> forgetting about it.

Yes, I'm going to have to deduct for that!

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

erilar wrote:
> In article <tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>
> True, but the combination was such fun 8-)

I disagree. Teal'c finally discovering that he says "Indeed" alot? That's
a major development!

Oh, but I agree about the fun part. What a hoot this episode was. Plus, I
was finally over the flu and could enjoy it. A perfect storm of happiness!

In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >
> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the formula
> > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >
> >
>
> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes indeed!

If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
Teal'c some youth back?

--

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:31:13 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

> Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

>> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> >
>> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a very
>> long time...

>Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
>although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.
>
>And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
>was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
>forgetting about it.

I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.

>Nice to see they still have the Stargate SG1 sets.
>
>Isn't Midway station weightless?
--
"Your national security advisor has just been executed.
He's a very good negotiator.
He bought you another half hour."
Egor Korshunov "Air Force One"

Jason Maxwell wrote:
> "A Watcher" <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com...
>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> formula
>>> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>
>>>
>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
> indeed!
> During the tour of the city Carter gave Teal'c the first time Teal'c said
> "Indeed" Amanda Tapping gave this half-smile and it looked almost as if it
> was AT reacting out of character to the return of an old friend in CJ
> instead of Sam reacting to Teal'c. Made me wonder if the script called for
> the smile or if AT was just happy to be working with CJ again.

You could certainly tell that they were comfortable working with each
other, and to have that transferred to the camera/screen is 'majic'.

In article <iergr3ds7e78p1dcap1b95m95lncua7vb8@4ax.com>,
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:31:13 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> >> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >> >
> >> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
> >> very
> >> long time...
>
> >Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
> >although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.
> >
> >And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
> >was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> >forgetting about it.
>
> I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
> Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
> so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
> Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.

Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
week, she's fine.
>
> >Nice to see they still have the Stargate SG1 sets.
> >
> >Isn't Midway station weightless?

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article
<ANIM8Rfsk-8826B9.12134017022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <iergr3ds7e78p1dcap1b95m95lncua7vb8@4ax.com>,
> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
> > Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
> > so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
> > Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
>
> Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
> week, she's fine.

People NOW have walking casts and the doctor says she'll be on crutches
for weeks? With all the fancy stuff they have there? Shoot the writer!!

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

In article
<ANIM8Rfsk-8826B9.12134017022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <iergr3ds7e78p1dcap1b95m95lncua7vb8@4ax.com>,
> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:31:13 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> > >> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> > >> >
> > >> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
> > >> very
> > >> long time...
> >
> > >Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
> > >although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.
> > >
> > >And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
> > >was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> > >forgetting about it.
> >
> > I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
> > Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
> > so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
> > Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
>
> Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
> week, she's fine.

Now if she's back on crutches *next* week, we'll know they're just
shooting episodes out of order.

"PumpkinEscobar" <pescobar@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:pescobar-E9DED4.12024017022008@news.verizon.net...
> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> > formula
>> > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
>> indeed!
>
> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
> Teal'c some youth back?

The Wraith hadn't taken Teal'c life force.

-- Ken from Chicago

Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week,
>>> saying she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and
>>> then promptly forgetting about it.
>>
>> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.
>
> Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks
> or months was in the first place.

It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
predicament more problematic.

>>> Isn't Midway station weightless?
>>
>> The last time we saw it, it wasn't fully constructed. It certainly
>> wasn't ready then for the routine shuttling of passengers back and
>> forth from Atlantis to Earth. No doubt they are using some Asgardian
>> artificial gravity tech.
>
> Or they forgot or decided it was too expensive or remembered that
> last time they did weightless it looked as bad as LOST IN SPACE
> did in 1964. :)

Doubtful. They obviously have artificial gravity tech of some sort,
since all of the 304s have it.

> Oh, and how has guy in charge not met Ronon before? He was there
> when the place was still weightless, he's complaining about still
> being there, and Ronon has made at least 2 trips before . . .

I don't recall Dr. Lee saying anything about not having met Ronon
before. Lee was there at Midway before, but he hasn't been there
*all* the time. He was involved in the recent episode where John
and Ronon were tracking the Replicator on Earth, and certainly
must've met Ronon then.

The last time Midway Station was used was in this season's premiere,
when Dr. Lee and Sam were there. There wasn't any artificial grav
then, but again, we don't know when the station went on-line for
regular back-and-forth travel.

-- jayembee

"puzzlrr" <puzzzlrrr@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:C9Vtj.809$pl4.683@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net. ..
>
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-460872.00311317022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
>
>> Isn't Midway station weightless?
>
>
> In a previous episode, Carter was at the station with Dr. Lee. It was
> weightless then, but she turned on the artificial gravity and Dr. Lee took
> a header onto the floor. Or maybe I'm remembering it wrong.


No, you are remembering it correctly.

Eva
--
Join the Stargate SG-1 SETI@home Team
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delusionals..."

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote
in
news:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com:

> One's a one hundred and eight year old jaffa, several
decades past
> retirement. For him, duty, honor, code, the greater
good are not mere
> words but principles he lives for, kills for, even
willing to die for.
> He knows the rules and is guided by them.
>
> One's a young hot-shot, hot-tempered satedan. He's a
lone wolf, a
> maverick. He doesn't follow the rules. He feels rules
are made to be
> broken. He dances to his own drummer then beats up the
drummer and
> beats the drum himself. He has poor impulse control.
>
> Now they are trapped, surrounded by Wraith, will they
be able to
> survive--if they don't kill each other first?
>
> Yes, the 1980s Buddy Cop flick. Roger Ebert called them
the "Wunza
> Movie" (e.g., one's an LA cop / one's a NY cop, one's
Northern cop /
> one's a Southern cop, one's American / one's Russian,
one's human /
> one's canine, one's human / one's alien, one's living /
one's undead,
> etc.). In the tradition of the Buddy Cop flick,
"Midway" practically
> writes itself, right down to:
> --The initial bad first impression
> --One side trying to be cordial and blown off
> --The initial sparring / fencing / shooting / sporting
/ etc. match
> --The obligatory betting on the outcome of said match
> --Said match interrupted by a superior officer
> --Getting caught in a Crisis and facing ... a Common
Foe
> --And developing grudging respect as each saves the
other's life
> --And the bonus of saving the life of a judgemental
VIP.
>
> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much
following the
> formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.

Sounds like a good assessment even though I haven't seen
the ep. I studied Communications in college and TV and
yes, all TV is formula-driven, even reality TV. There
are formulas for most, if not all shows, even this one.
There are techniques for analyzing shows. It's been a
while since I've done it but I analysed horror shows
(like Tales from the Crypt and others for instance) and
found a clear pattern in all of them. Can't recall the
sequence of events now but they all had a pattern that
repeats. Someone else did the Star Trek shows and found
they all had the same pattern or formula.

It also applies to novels. Stephen King's for example
all follow a similar pattern.

Gisele

erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in
news:drache-42E261.19280716022008@news.airstreamcomm.net:

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

I love that quote! Argue much with
Fundamentalists?..........<eg>

Gisele

Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, jayembee said:

> > Isn't Midway station weightless?
> The last time we saw it, it wasn't fully constructed. It certainly
> wasn't ready then for the routine shuttling of passengers back and
> forth from Atlantis to Earth. No doubt they are using some Asgardian
> artificial gravity tech.

The last time we saw it, it was completed. Lee and Carter were
weightless in the station because the artificial gravity was broken.
They said so - Lee was complaining about it.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

Tips for the Innocent Bystander: 24. If you are spending the night in
a spooky old house on a dare, don't sneak away to another part of the
house for romantic interludes with your Significant Other. Wait until
you can get a nice, clean, safe motel room.

In article <Xns9A47AAB839227giselelarochenospamy@194.177.96.26>,
"bc_gisele" <giselelaroche@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:

> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in
> news:drache-42E261.19280716022008@news.airstreamcomm.net:
>
> You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
> is that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov
>
> I love that quote! Argue much with
> Fundamentalists?..........<eg>

I hang out in several newsgroups, some more severely troll-infested than
others.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com...
> One's a one hundred and eight year old jaffa, several decades past
> retirement. For him, duty, honor, code, the greater good are not mere
> words but principles he lives for, kills for, even willing to die for. He
> knows the rules and is guided by them.
>
> One's a young hot-shot, hot-tempered satedan. He's a lone wolf, a
> maverick. He doesn't follow the rules. He feels rules are made to be
> broken. He dances to his own drummer then beats up the drummer and beats
> the drum himself. He has poor impulse control.
>
> Now they are trapped, surrounded by Wraith, will they be able to
> survive--if they don't kill each other first?
>
> Yes, the 1980s Buddy Cop flick. Roger Ebert called them the "Wunza Movie"
> (e.g., one's an LA cop / one's a NY cop, one's Northern cop / one's a
> Southern cop, one's American / one's Russian, one's human / one's canine,
> one's human / one's alien, one's living / one's undead, etc.). In the
> tradition of the Buddy Cop flick, "Midway" practically writes itself,
> right down to:
> --The initial bad first impression
> --One side trying to be cordial and blown off
> --The initial sparring / fencing / shooting / sporting / etc. match
> --The obligatory betting on the outcome of said match
> --Said match interrupted by a superior officer
> --Getting caught in a Crisis and facing ... a Common Foe
> --And developing grudging respect as each saves the other's life
> --And the bonus of saving the life of a judgemental VIP.
>
> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the formula
> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> P.S. Oh and it showed machine guns are simply not all that "romantic" a
> weapon. There's something far more cinematic about hand-to-hand, melee
> weapons, polearms, even single-shot weapons (Teal'c and Ronon looked far
> "cooler" using, respectively, a zat and Ronon's gun). Just standing there
> pointing and sweeping ... blah.

It reminded me of the game "Pacman"!
--
David Barnett

In article <tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com>,
kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net says...
> One's a one hundred and eight year old jaffa, several decades past
> retirement. For him, duty, honor, code, the greater good are not mere words
> but principles he lives for, kills for, even willing to die for. He knows
> the rules and is guided by them.
>
> One's a young hot-shot, hot-tempered satedan. He's a lone wolf, a maverick.
> He doesn't follow the rules. He feels rules are made to be broken. He dances
> to his own drummer then beats up the drummer and beats the drum himself. He
> has poor impulse control.
>
> Now they are trapped, surrounded by Wraith, will they be able to survive--if
> they don't kill each other first?
>

I'm looking forward to that series this autumn! *g*

In article <drache-42E261.19280716022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
drache@chibardun.net.invalid says...
> In article <tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the formula
> > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>
> True, but the combination was such fun 8-)

Indeed! :)

In article <d5idnT8upvp1AiXanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>,
kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net says...
>
> "PumpkinEscobar" <pescobar@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:pescobar-E9DED4.12024017022008@news.verizon.net...
> > In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
> > A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> >> > formula
> >> > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
> >> indeed!
> >
> > If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
> > Teal'c some youth back?
>
> The Wraith hadn't taken Teal'c life force.

But it must have taken someone elses.

In article <drache-22491C.08490417022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
drache@chibardun.net.invalid says...
> In article
> <ANIM8Rfsk-460872.00311317022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
> > was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> > forgetting about it.
>
> Yes, I'm going to have to deduct for that!

No no, because Sam remembered she has the healing device in her room! ;)

In article <Xns9A47A5C1050BFjayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130>,
jayembeenospam@snurcher.com says...
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week,
> >>> saying she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and
> >>> then promptly forgetting about it.
> >>
> >> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.
> >
> > Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks
> > or months was in the first place.
>
> It wasn't a "choice".

Yes - it was the choice of the writers.

> She broke her leg, which is going to take
> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
> predicament more problematic.

Well that didn't work.

erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in
news:drache-8DD9EB.16140617022008@news.airstreamcomm.net:

> In article <Xns9A47AAB839227giselelarochenospamy@
194.177.96.26>,
> "bc_gisele" <giselelaroche@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in
>> news:drache-42E261.19280716022008
@news.airstreamcomm.net:
>>
>> You can't reason with someone whose first line of
argument
>> is that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov
>>
>> I love that quote! Argue much with
>> Fundamentalists?..........<eg>
>
> I hang out in several newsgroups, some more severely
troll-infested than
> others.

I see. Well, good quote anyway!

Gisele

jayembee wrote:


>
> The last time Midway Station was used was in this season's premiere,
> when Dr. Lee and Sam were there. There wasn't any artificial grav
> then, but again, we don't know when the station went on-line for
> regular back-and-forth travel.
>
> -- jayembee

Actually back in the season premiere we watched Sam and Dr. Lee as they
activated the stations artificial gravity for the first time.

ALV

In article <drache-996DE5.13224717022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article
> <ANIM8Rfsk-8826B9.12134017022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <iergr3ds7e78p1dcap1b95m95lncua7vb8@4ax.com>,
> > "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
> > > Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
> > > so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
> > > Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
> >
> > Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
> > week, she's fine.
>
> People NOW have walking casts and the doctor says she'll be on crutches
> for weeks? With all the fancy stuff they have there? Shoot the writer!!

Hence I assumed it must be a nasty break (they said they only had an
hour to get her out before the internal bleeding got her, remember?).

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <atropos-61BB5E.15525217022008@news.giganews.com>,
Thanatos <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

> In article
> <ANIM8Rfsk-8826B9.12134017022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <iergr3ds7e78p1dcap1b95m95lncua7vb8@4ax.com>,
> > "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:31:13 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> > > >> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> > > >> >
> > > >> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
> > > >> very
> > > >> long time...
> > >
> > > >Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
> > > >although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.
> > > >
> > > >And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
> > > >was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> > > >forgetting about it.
> > >
> > > I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
> > > Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
> > > so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
> > > Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
> >
> > Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
> > week, she's fine.
>
> Now if she's back on crutches *next* week, we'll know they're just
> shooting episodes out of order.

Yeah, I'm waiting for that.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <d5idnT8upvp1AiXanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> "PumpkinEscobar" <pescobar@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:pescobar-E9DED4.12024017022008@news.verizon.net...
> > In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
> > A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> >> > formula
> >> > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
> >> indeed!
> >
> > If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
> > Teal'c some youth back?
>
> The Wraith hadn't taken Teal'c life force.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago

He was sure in the middle of it.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <Xns9A47A5C1050BFjayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130>,
jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week,
> >>> saying she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and
> >>> then promptly forgetting about it.
> >>
> >> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.
> >
> > Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks
> > or months was in the first place.
>
> It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
> predicament more problematic.

And they promptly forgot it. Wouldn't dialog like "I'll have her up and
around in no time" been better than "she'll be on crutches for weeks" if
you aren't gonna follow up on it?

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> P.S. Oh and it showed machine guns are simply not all that "romantic" a
> weapon. There's something far more cinematic about hand-to-hand, melee
> weapons, polearms, even single-shot weapons (Teal'c and Ronon looked far
> "cooler" using, respectively, a zat and Ronon's gun)

Oh, yeah -- now we know for a fact that zats work just fine on Wraith.
SO WHY DOESN'T SGA HAVE ANY???

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <drache-996DE5.13224717022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <ANIM8Rfsk-8826B9.12134017022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <iergr3ds7e78p1dcap1b95m95lncua7vb8@4ax.com>,
>>> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
>>>> Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
>>>> so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
>>>> Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
>>> Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
>>> week, she's fine.
>> People NOW have walking casts and the doctor says she'll be on crutches
>> for weeks? With all the fancy stuff they have there? Shoot the writer!!
>
> Hence I assumed it must be a nasty break (they said they only had an
> hour to get her out before the internal bleeding got her, remember?).
>
Do we know that "Midway" took place *exactly* a week after "Trio" in the
SGA universe?

Teyla is getting bigger and bigger--maybe 6 weeks in SGA time went by,
plenty of time for Sam's leg to heal. I'm just sayin'.

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <d5idnT8upvp1AiXanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "PumpkinEscobar" <pescobar@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:pescobar-E9DED4.12024017022008@news.verizon.net...
>>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>>>>> formula
>>>>> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
>>>> indeed!
>>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>>> Teal'c some youth back?
>> The Wraith hadn't taken Teal'c life force.
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> He was sure in the middle of it.
>

That was what I thought was happening when Ronon pieced the Wraith with
that big honking broken pipe.

--

********
Beth
mailto:beth.smarr@verizon.net
mailto:bsmarr@access.k12.wv.us

Smarr's Annex, http://hhs.cabe.k12.wv.us/staff/bsmarr/

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:13:40 -0700, Anim8rFSK wrote:

> In article <iergr3ds7e78p1dcap1b95m95lncua7vb8@4ax.com>,
> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:31:13 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> >> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> >> >
>> >> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
>> >> very
>> >> long time...
>>
>> >Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
>> >although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.
>> >
>> >And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
>> >was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
>> >forgetting about it.
>>
>> I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
>> Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
>> so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
>> Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
>
> Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
> week, she's fine.

They unexpectedly were able to bring an Ancient healing device from Earth
that did the trick for her.



>>
>> >Nice to see they still have the Stargate SG1 sets.
>> >
>> >Isn't Midway station weightless?
>

On Feb 16, 8:43 pm, Chris Schumacher <kens...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote innews:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>
> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a very
> long time...
>

The stupidity of the episode burned too badly for me to really enjoy
it. I mean, they even commented in the episode about how they had the
ability for Atlantis to dial Earth directly, but was avoiding it so as
to not use the ZPM. You'd think that maybe a quick, "Hey, Earth.
Midway's been compromised. Thought you might want to know." would
have been worth a smidge of ZPM power.

--
Ernest

In article <0K4uj.5849$N95.5412@trnddc03>,
Beth Smarr <beth.smarr@verizon.net> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <d5idnT8upvp1AiXanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "PumpkinEscobar" <pescobar@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >> news:pescobar-E9DED4.12024017022008@news.verizon.net...
> >>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
> >>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> >>>>> formula
> >>>>> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
> >>>> indeed!
> >>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
> >>> Teal'c some youth back?
> >> The Wraith hadn't taken Teal'c life force.
> >>
> >> -- Ken from Chicago
> >
> > He was sure in the middle of it.
> >
>
> That was what I thought was happening when Ronon pieced the Wraith with
> that big honking broken pipe.

yep

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article
<bfe2c107-c685-44e9-a21f-de655c05e170@28g2000hsw.googlegroups.com>,
Ernest Dotson <ewdotson@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 16, 8:43 pm, Chris Schumacher <kens...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote
> > innews:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >
> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> > > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >
> > I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a very
> > long time...
> >
>
> The stupidity of the episode burned too badly for me to really enjoy
> it. I mean, they even commented in the episode about how they had the
> ability for Atlantis to dial Earth directly, but was avoiding it so as
> to not use the ZPM. You'd think that maybe a quick, "Hey, Earth.
> Midway's been compromised. Thought you might want to know." would
> have been worth a smidge of ZPM power.
>
> --
> Ernest

Oh, it's better than that -- if you dial Earth directly, you'd have
stopped the Wraith at Midway.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

PumpkinEscobar wrote:

> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the formula
> > > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes indeed!
>
> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
> Teal'c some youth back?

In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?

Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

>> It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
>> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
>> predicament more problematic.
>
> And they promptly forgot it. Wouldn't dialog like "I'll have her
> up and around in no time" been better than "she'll be on crutches
> for weeks" if you aren't gonna follow up on it?

Why does it need to be followed up on? We know she broke her leg,
it was going to heal after some amount of time, and in this episode
we saw that it was healed. We can either assume that there's been
some length of time in between episodes, or that Sam's leg healed
faster than Keller thought it would. Or we can piss and moan that
one brief line of dialogue wasn't in the episode.

Some people prefer to piss and moan. I don't. It's not that big
a deal.

-- jayembee

"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:47B921A4.744ADB77@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>
>
> PumpkinEscobar wrote:
>
>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >
>> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> > > formula
>> > > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
>> > indeed!
>>
>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>> Teal'c some youth back?
>
> In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?
>

The third season episode Common Ground. A wraith took Sheppard's life force
then returned it.

Tim Bruening wrote:
>
> PumpkinEscobar wrote:
>
>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the formula
>>>> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes indeed!
>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>> Teal'c some youth back?
>
> In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?

Tim, please stop cross-posting to other non-relavant newsgroups.

As for which episode, I -believe- it was Season 2 (maybe 3) and the
first Wraith that Sheppard (albeit begrudgingly) made an alliance with,
took some of Sheppards' life, so that he wouldn't die and had enough
strength to battle someone, then gave -back- life to Sheppard so that he
-could- live and fullfill the objective of their alliance. All the
while, the Wraith was saying "you know so little about us".

In article <Q-CdnQLL5_GDuSTanZ2dnUVZ_q-jnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> news:47B921A4.744ADB77@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
> >
> >
> > PumpkinEscobar wrote:
> >
> >> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
> >> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> >> > > formula
> >> > > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
> >> > indeed!
> >>
> >> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
> >> Teal'c some youth back?
> >
> > In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?
> >
>
> The third season episode Common Ground. A wraith took Sheppard's life force
> then returned it.

I've always wondered if it was interchangeable; take some lifeforce from
this guy, give it to that guy . . .

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-A9ADCA.21153917022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <0K4uj.5849$N95.5412@trnddc03>,
> Beth Smarr <beth.smarr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> > In article <d5idnT8upvp1AiXanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "PumpkinEscobar" <pescobar@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:pescobar-E9DED4.12024017022008@news.verizon.net...
>> >>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>> >>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> >>>>> formula
>> >>>>> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
>> >>>> indeed!
>> >>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>> >>> Teal'c some youth back?
>> >> The Wraith hadn't taken Teal'c life force.
>> >>
>> >> -- Ken from Chicago
>> >
>> > He was sure in the middle of it.
>> >
>>
>> That was what I thought was happening when Ronon pieced the Wraith with
>> that big honking broken pipe.
>
> yep
>
> --
> Star Trek 09:
>
> No Shat, No Show.

I doubt the dead Wraith could return any life force. Teal'c was aged because
of the SG1 series finale where he went thru some kind of time displacement.

-- Ken from Chicago

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-D74FD8.17131517022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> P.S. Oh and it showed machine guns are simply not all that "romantic" a
>> weapon. There's something far more cinematic about hand-to-hand, melee
>> weapons, polearms, even single-shot weapons (Teal'c and Ronon looked far
>> "cooler" using, respectively, a zat and Ronon's gun)
>
> Oh, yeah -- now we know for a fact that zats work just fine on Wraith.
> SO WHY DOESN'T SGA HAVE ANY???
>
> --
> Star Trek 09:
>
> No Shat, No Show.

Zats are single-shot weapons. Machine guns are point and sweep.

And handguns are smaller, tho I think the extra size might be worth it for
the guarantee of a one-hit / one-stun. However that brings up what powers
them.

-- Ken from Chicago

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-8CAD37.01000818022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <Q-CdnQLL5_GDuSTanZ2dnUVZ_q-jnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>> news:47B921A4.744ADB77@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>> >
>> >
>> > PumpkinEscobar wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>> >> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> >> > > formula
>> >> > > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
>> >> > indeed!
>> >>
>> >> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>> >> Teal'c some youth back?
>> >
>> > In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?
>> >
>>
>> The third season episode Common Ground. A wraith took Sheppard's life
>> force
>> then returned it.
>
> I've always wondered if it was interchangeable; take some lifeforce from
> this guy, give it to that guy . . .
>
> --
> Star Trek 09:
>
> No Shat, No Show.

That's the catch. So far we've only seen them return the life force from
someone they themselves took.

-- Ken from Chicago

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-DEAD05.21161617022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article
> <bfe2c107-c685-44e9-a21f-de655c05e170@28g2000hsw.googlegroups.com>,
> Ernest Dotson <ewdotson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 16, 8:43 pm, Chris Schumacher <kens...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote
>> > innews:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> >
>> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> > > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> >
>> > I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
>> > very
>> > long time...
>> >
>>
>> The stupidity of the episode burned too badly for me to really enjoy
>> it. I mean, they even commented in the episode about how they had the
>> ability for Atlantis to dial Earth directly, but was avoiding it so as
>> to not use the ZPM. You'd think that maybe a quick, "Hey, Earth.
>> Midway's been compromised. Thought you might want to know." would
>> have been worth a smidge of ZPM power.
>>
>> --
>> Ernest
>
> Oh, it's better than that -- if you dial Earth directly, you'd have
> stopped the Wraith at Midway.
>
> --
> Star Trek 09:
>
> No Shat, No Show.

They could have tried--but the gate was occupied with the Wraith dialing in.

Too bad you don't have a stargate 3rd-party dialing or voice-mail.

"Sorry, I got another gate dialing in. One moment."

-- Ken from Chicago

"jayembee" <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A48D61EE34Cjayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130 ...
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>> It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
>>> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
>>> predicament more problematic.
>>
>> And they promptly forgot it. Wouldn't dialog like "I'll have her
>> up and around in no time" been better than "she'll be on crutches
>> for weeks" if you aren't gonna follow up on it?
>
> Why does it need to be followed up on? We know she broke her leg,
> it was going to heal after some amount of time, and in this episode
> we saw that it was healed. We can either assume that there's been
> some length of time in between episodes, or that Sam's leg healed
> faster than Keller thought it would. Or we can piss and moan that
> one brief line of dialogue wasn't in the episode.
>
> Some people prefer to piss and moan. I don't. It's not that big
> a deal.
>
> -- jayembee

Geeks are all about the details.

It's our gift. It's our curse.

-- Ken from Chicago (who doesn't care about the number of Kirk's safe, tho
he does know the Grid Epsilon coordinates of the B5 station are based on the
roundtable and categories numbers of GEnie online bulletin board)

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-9D3BA2.17080917022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <Xns9A47A5C1050BFjayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130>,
> jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week,
>> >>> saying she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and
>> >>> then promptly forgetting about it.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.
>> >
>> > Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks
>> > or months was in the first place.
>>
>> It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
>> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
>> predicament more problematic.
>
> And they promptly forgot it. Wouldn't dialog like "I'll have her up and
> around in no time" been better than "she'll be on crutches for weeks" if
> you aren't gonna follow up on it?
>

On one commentary, the producers/directors mentioned how this show is
basically filmed for syndication, which means all the regulars have to be
put back whole at the end of each episode; continuity problems and all
that. Can't have Carter break her leg in one episode, in crutches the next,
because who knows how they'll be shown in syndication. Btw, the commentary
track was on 'Conversion'.


Puzz

"Beth Smarr" <beth.smarr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0K4uj.5849$N95.5412@trnddc03...
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article <d5idnT8upvp1AiXanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "PumpkinEscobar" <pescobar@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:pescobar-E9DED4.12024017022008@news.verizon.net...
>>>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>>>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>>>>>> formula
>>>>>> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
>>>>> indeed!
>>>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>>>> Teal'c some youth back?
>>> The Wraith hadn't taken Teal'c life force.
>>>
>>> -- Ken from Chicago
>>
>> He was sure in the middle of it.
>>
>
> That was what I thought was happening when Ronon pieced the Wraith with
> that big honking broken pipe.
>

Then shouldn't Teal'c have turned into a Wraith enzyme addict, like Ford?
The Wraith was killed, mid-meal, so.....

Puzz

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:AaKdnTO5Jq4-0CTanZ2dnUVZ_tmhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-8CAD37.01000818022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
>> In article <Q-CdnQLL5_GDuSTanZ2dnUVZ_q-jnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "Arthur Lipscomb" <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>
>>> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>>> news:47B921A4.744ADB77@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > PumpkinEscobar wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>>> >> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>>> >> > > formula
>>> >> > > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor,
>>> >> > yes
>>> >> > indeed!
>>> >>
>>> >> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>>> >> Teal'c some youth back?
>>> >
>>> > In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?
>>> >
>>>
>>> The third season episode Common Ground. A wraith took Sheppard's life
>>> force
>>> then returned it.
>>
>> I've always wondered if it was interchangeable; take some lifeforce from
>> this guy, give it to that guy . . .
>>
>> --
>> Star Trek 09:
>>
>> No Shat, No Show.
>
> That's the catch. So far we've only seen them return the life force from
> someone they themselves took.
>

I thought that he had used all of John's life force before they made their
escape. He even said how he was feeling weak and needed to feed again.
John said, 'Don't look at me", LOL. So he fed upon the guards then used
their life force to rejuvenate Sheppard. I'm thinking its all
interchangeable.

Puzz

"puzzlrr" <puzzzlrrr@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:8Cduj.916$pl4.593@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net. ..
>
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-9D3BA2.17080917022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
>> In article <Xns9A47A5C1050BFjayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130>,
>> jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week,
>>> >>> saying she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and
>>> >>> then promptly forgetting about it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.
>>> >
>>> > Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks
>>> > or months was in the first place.
>>>
>>> It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
>>> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
>>> predicament more problematic.
>>
>> And they promptly forgot it. Wouldn't dialog like "I'll have her up and
>> around in no time" been better than "she'll be on crutches for weeks" if
>> you aren't gonna follow up on it?
>>
>
> On one commentary, the producers/directors mentioned how this show is
> basically filmed for syndication, which means all the regulars have to be
> put back whole at the end of each episode; continuity problems and all
> that. Can't have Carter break her leg in one episode, in crutches the
> next, because who knows how they'll be shown in syndication. Btw, the
> commentary track was on 'Conversion'.
>
>
> Puzz

You could just start the ep mentioning Carter was still healing from a
broken leg from a previous mission (without mentioning said mission
details), much like they had Daniel recovering from an operation in one
episode when Shanks was recovering from some major illness.

-- Ken from Chicago

"Beth Smarr" <beth.smarr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0K4uj.5849$N95.5412@trnddc03...
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article <d5idnT8upvp1AiXanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "PumpkinEscobar" <pescobar@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:pescobar-E9DED4.12024017022008@news.verizon.net...
>>>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>>>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>>>>>> formula
>>>>>> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
>>>>> indeed!
>>>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>>>> Teal'c some youth back?
>>> The Wraith hadn't taken Teal'c life force.
>>>
>>> -- Ken from Chicago
>>
>> He was sure in the middle of it.
>>
>
> That was what I thought was happening when Ronon pieced the Wraith with
> that big honking broken pipe.

I thot he was ABOUT to feed when he got a little "indigestion", some excess
iron in his diet.

-- Ken from Chicago

Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>
> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> news:47B921A4.744ADB77@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>>
>>
>> PumpkinEscobar wrote:
>>
>>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > >
>>> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>>> > > formula
>>> > > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor,
>>> yes > indeed!
>>>
>>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>>> Teal'c some youth back?
>>
>> In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?
>>
>
> The third season episode Common Ground. A wraith took Sheppard's life
> force then returned it.

Also that episode about Ronon's Satedan friends who were
worshippers...they were tortured repeatedly until they were broken.

Justin Kase wrote:
> Tim Bruening wrote:
>>
>> PumpkinEscobar wrote:
>>
>>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>>>>> formula
>>>>> and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor, yes
>>>> indeed!
>>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>>> Teal'c some youth back?
>>
>> In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?
>
> Tim, please stop cross-posting to other non-relavant newsgroups.
>
> As for which episode, I -believe- it was Season 2 (maybe 3) and the
> first Wraith that Sheppard (albeit begrudgingly) made an alliance with,
> took some of Sheppards' life, so that he wouldn't die and had enough
> strength to battle someone, then gave -back- life to Sheppard so that he
> -could- live and fullfill the objective of their alliance. All the
> while, the Wraith was saying "you know so little about us".

That was Todd, wasn't it?

In article <8Cduj.916$pl4.593@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,
"puzzlrr" <puzzzlrrr@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-9D3BA2.17080917022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> > In article <Xns9A47A5C1050BFjayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130>,
> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week,
> >> >>> saying she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and
> >> >>> then promptly forgetting about it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.
> >> >
> >> > Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks
> >> > or months was in the first place.
> >>
> >> It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
> >> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
> >> predicament more problematic.
> >
> > And they promptly forgot it. Wouldn't dialog like "I'll have her up and
> > around in no time" been better than "she'll be on crutches for weeks" if
> > you aren't gonna follow up on it?
> >
>
> On one commentary, the producers/directors mentioned how this show is
> basically filmed for syndication, which means all the regulars have to be
> put back whole at the end of each episode; continuity problems and all
> that. Can't have Carter break her leg in one episode, in crutches the next,
> because who knows how they'll be shown in syndication.

Well, if that's the case, it would seem to prohibit all the season-long
story arcs that are common to both shows as well.

In article <3KKdneZLv9Kj0CTanZ2dnUVZ_q-jnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-D74FD8.17131517022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> > In article <tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> P.S. Oh and it showed machine guns are simply not all that "romantic" a
> >> weapon. There's something far more cinematic about hand-to-hand, melee
> >> weapons, polearms, even single-shot weapons (Teal'c and Ronon looked far
> >> "cooler" using, respectively, a zat and Ronon's gun)
> >
> > Oh, yeah -- now we know for a fact that zats work just fine on Wraith.
> > SO WHY DOESN'T SGA HAVE ANY???
> >
> > --
> > Star Trek 09:
> >
> > No Shat, No Show.
>
> Zats are single-shot weapons. Machine guns are point and sweep.

Single shot weapons that fire just as fast as you want.
>
> And handguns are smaller, tho I think the extra size might be worth it for
> the guarantee of a one-hit / one-stun. However that brings up what powers
> them.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <U-udnfyULNPN0yTanZ2dnUVZ_h6hnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-DEAD05.21161617022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> > In article
> > <bfe2c107-c685-44e9-a21f-de655c05e170@28g2000hsw.googlegroups.com>,
> > Ernest Dotson <ewdotson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Feb 16, 8:43 pm, Chris Schumacher <kens...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote
> >> > innews:tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >> >
> >> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> >> > > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >> >
> >> > I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
> >> > very
> >> > long time...
> >> >
> >>
> >> The stupidity of the episode burned too badly for me to really enjoy
> >> it. I mean, they even commented in the episode about how they had the
> >> ability for Atlantis to dial Earth directly, but was avoiding it so as
> >> to not use the ZPM. You'd think that maybe a quick, "Hey, Earth.
> >> Midway's been compromised. Thought you might want to know." would
> >> have been worth a smidge of ZPM power.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ernest
> >
> > Oh, it's better than that -- if you dial Earth directly, you'd have
> > stopped the Wraith at Midway.
> >
> > --
> > Star Trek 09:
> >
> > No Shat, No Show.
>
> They could have tried--but the gate was occupied with the Wraith dialing in.

Not for quite a while. And, even if they failed, they should have tried.
>
> Too bad you don't have a stargate 3rd-party dialing or voice-mail.
>
> "Sorry, I got another gate dialing in. One moment."
>
> -- Ken from Chicago

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <8Cduj.916$pl4.593@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,
"puzzlrr" <puzzzlrrr@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-9D3BA2.17080917022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> > In article <Xns9A47A5C1050BFjayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130>,
> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week,
> >> >>> saying she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and
> >> >>> then promptly forgetting about it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.
> >> >
> >> > Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks
> >> > or months was in the first place.
> >>
> >> It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
> >> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
> >> predicament more problematic.
> >
> > And they promptly forgot it. Wouldn't dialog like "I'll have her up and
> > around in no time" been better than "she'll be on crutches for weeks" if
> > you aren't gonna follow up on it?
> >
>
> On one commentary, the producers/directors mentioned how this show is
> basically filmed for syndication, which means all the regulars have to be
> put back whole at the end of each episode; continuity problems and all
> that. Can't have Carter break her leg in one episode, in crutches the next,
> because who knows how they'll be shown in syndication. Btw, the commentary
> track was on 'Conversion'.
>
>
> Puzz

Ack. Thanks for that. I think. :)

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <WvydnTzByLK-9iTanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> "puzzlrr" <puzzzlrrr@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:8Cduj.916$pl4.593@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >
> > "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:ANIM8Rfsk-9D3BA2.17080917022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> >> In article <Xns9A47A5C1050BFjayembeesnurcher@140.99.99.130>,
> >> jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > jayembee <jayembeenospam@snurcher.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week,
> >>> >>> saying she was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and
> >>> >>> then promptly forgetting about it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Maybe this episode took place weeks or months later.
> >>> >
> >>> > Then I'm not sure what the point of incapacitating Sam for weeks
> >>> > or months was in the first place.
> >>>
> >>> It wasn't a "choice". She broke her leg, which is going to take
> >>> some time to heal. The point to breaking her leg was to make their
> >>> predicament more problematic.
> >>
> >> And they promptly forgot it. Wouldn't dialog like "I'll have her up and
> >> around in no time" been better than "she'll be on crutches for weeks" if
> >> you aren't gonna follow up on it?
> >>
> >
> > On one commentary, the producers/directors mentioned how this show is
> > basically filmed for syndication, which means all the regulars have to be
> > put back whole at the end of each episode; continuity problems and all
> > that. Can't have Carter break her leg in one episode, in crutches the
> > next, because who knows how they'll be shown in syndication. Btw, the
> > commentary track was on 'Conversion'.
> >
> >
> > Puzz
>
> You could just start the ep mentioning Carter was still healing from a
> broken leg from a previous mission (without mentioning said mission
> details), much like they had Daniel recovering from an operation in one
> episode when Shanks was recovering from some major illness.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago

Something about the broken leg -- It would have kept Carter from going
with the strike force. McKay was a stupid choice (of course the plot
ending up making him a good choice, but still). He's not a warrior, and
Lee and Carter should know as much about Midway as he does.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:13:40 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:31:13 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>> >> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>> >> >
>> >> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
>> >> very long time...
>>
>> >Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
>> >although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.
>> >
>> >And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
>> >was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
>> >forgetting about it.
>>
>> I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
>> Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
>> so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
>> Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
>
>Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
>week, she's fine.

Did Doctor Keller have an X-Ray machine in the mine? If not (and she
didn't), she is just speculating.

As I said - I've been there (aka I HAD *this* particular break).

>> >Nice to see they still have the Stargate SG1 sets.
>> >
>> >Isn't Midway station weightless?
--
"It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without
changing a single idea."
- Robert Anton Wilson

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:22:47 -0600, erilar
<drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
>> > Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
>> > so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
>> > Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
>>
>> Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
>> week, she's fine.
>
>People NOW have walking casts

Actually, that was 14 years ago.

>and the doctor says she'll be on crutches
>for weeks? With all the fancy stuff they have there? Shoot the writer!!
--
"The morning after blues from my head down to my shoes
Carefree Highway let me slip away let me slip away on you."
- Gordon Lightfoot

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:04:25 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> > "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
>> > > Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
>> > > so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
>> > > Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
>> >
>> > Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
>> > week, she's fine.
>>
>> People NOW have walking casts and the doctor says she'll be on crutches
>> for weeks? With all the fancy stuff they have there? Shoot the writer!!
>
>Hence I assumed it must be a nasty break (they said they only had an
>hour to get her out before the internal bleeding got her, remember?).

Oh, yes... It was also a REALLY bad idea to take off the boot. The
boot would provide stability to the break AND constrict blood flow so
the internal bleeding would be stanched. They didn't take off my boot
until I got to a hospital.
--
"Nothing shocks me. I'm a scientist."
- Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones

"whodunit" <whodunit@whodunit.net> wrote in message
news:kwfuj.57945$Pv2.56868@newssvr23.news.prodigy. net...
> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>
>> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>> news:47B921A4.744ADB77@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>>>
>>>
>>> PumpkinEscobar wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>>>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>>>> > > formula
>>>> > > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor,
>>>> yes > indeed!
>>>>
>>>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>>>> Teal'c some youth back?
>>>
>>> In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?
>>>
>>
>> The third season episode Common Ground. A wraith took Sheppard's life
>> force then returned it.
>
> Also that episode about Ronon's Satedan friends who were
> worshippers...they were tortured repeatedly until they were broken.

I suspect one of the reasons people worship the Wraith is their ability to
offer them extended youth.

Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>
> "whodunit" <whodunit@whodunit.net> wrote in message
> news:kwfuj.57945$Pv2.56868@newssvr23.news.prodigy. net...
>> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>
>>> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>>> news:47B921A4.744ADB77@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PumpkinEscobar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <13rfa8ig1hdud0c@corp.supernews.com>,
>>>>> A Watcher <stocksami@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following
>>>>> the > > formula
>>>>> > > and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It was entertaining, though. A good mixture of drama and humor,
>>>>> yes > indeed!
>>>>>
>>>>> If a Wraith can return life force to a human, why not get one to give
>>>>> Teal'c some youth back?
>>>>
>>>> In which episode did a Wraith RETURN life force to a human?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The third season episode Common Ground. A wraith took Sheppard's
>>> life force then returned it.
>>
>> Also that episode about Ronon's Satedan friends who were
>> worshippers...they were tortured repeatedly until they were broken.
>
> I suspect one of the reasons people worship the Wraith is their ability
> to offer them extended youth.

That makes a lot of sense! Good point.

whodunit wrote:

>> As for which episode, I -believe- it was Season 2 (maybe 3) and the
>> first Wraith that Sheppard (albeit begrudgingly) made an alliance
>> with, took some of Sheppards' life, so that he wouldn't die and had
>> enough strength to battle someone, then gave -back- life to Sheppard
>> so that he -could- live and fullfill the objective of their alliance.
>> All the while, the Wraith was saying "you know so little about us".
>
> That was Todd, wasn't it?

I dunno. Was hoping someone would answer...

...
..

In article <iv8jr3tdd9uovqa3f273uuforfihqkki1f@4ax.com>,
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:

> >People NOW have walking casts
>
> Actually, that was 14 years ago.

I had a walking cast 50 years ago 8-)

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo

In article <gq8jr31e438su99on45218fp87bdml9kjs@4ax.com>,
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:13:40 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> > "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:31:13 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
> >> >> > formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
> >> >> >
> >> >> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
> >> >> very long time...
> >>
> >> >Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
> >> >although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.
> >> >
> >> >And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
> >> >was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
> >> >forgetting about it.
> >>
> >> I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
> >> Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
> >> so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
> >> Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
> >
> >Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
> >week, she's fine.
>
> Did Doctor Keller have an X-Ray machine in the mine? If not (and she
> didn't), she is just speculating.

They said this at the end of the show, in the sick bay, when she was
hitting on McKay.
>
> As I said - I've been there (aka I HAD *this* particular break).
>
> >> >Nice to see they still have the Stargate SG1 sets.
> >> >
> >> >Isn't Midway station weightless?

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

In article <f19jr3lia5du00n69n3dntil2ae47dqkr4@4ax.com>,
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:04:25 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> > erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
> >> > > Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
> >> > > so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
> >> > > Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
> >> >
> >> > Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
> >> > week, she's fine.
> >>
> >> People NOW have walking casts and the doctor says she'll be on crutches
> >> for weeks? With all the fancy stuff they have there? Shoot the writer!!
> >
> >Hence I assumed it must be a nasty break (they said they only had an
> >hour to get her out before the internal bleeding got her, remember?).
>
> Oh, yes... It was also a REALLY bad idea to take off the boot. The
> boot would provide stability to the break AND constrict blood flow so
> the internal bleeding would be stanched. They didn't take off my boot
> until I got to a hospital.

I wondered about that. I mean, no matter what the problem, you take off
the boot, it's not going back on.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <gq8jr31e438su99on45218fp87bdml9kjs@4ax.com>,
> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:13:40 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:31:13 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> The episode was pretty character-light, pretty much following the
>>>>>>> formula and not too much of a twist in said formula.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose that's true, but it was also the best episode SGA's had in a
>>>>>> very long time...
>>>>> Yes. Come the poll, I'll give it a solid 4, because I enjoyed it,
>>>>> although it sure didn't hold up to thinking about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> And they lose a full point for breaking Sam's leg last week, saying she
>>>>> was gonna be on crutches for weeks or months, and then promptly
>>>>> forgetting about it.
>>>> I'm not all that surprised. I have HAD a rather badly broken leg.
>>>> Depending on where it's broken, you can be walking around in a
>>>> so-called "walking cast" shortly after surgery. They splinted
>>>> Carter's ankle. That's exactly where my break occurred.
>>> Last week the doctor said she'd be on crutches for weeks or months; this
>>> week, she's fine.
>> Did Doctor Keller have an X-Ray machine in the mine? If not (and she
>> didn't), she is just speculating.
>
> They said this at the end of the show, in the sick bay, when she was
> hitting on McKay.
>
See, from a woman's point of view, I didn't think she was 'hitting' on
Rodney, but was instead trying to encourage him to take advantage of
situations where he could relax with women (in non-sexual situations)--
which is funny, because his character was SUCH a lech on the original SG
episodes he was in!! Put Austin Powers to shame, baby! ;-)

Carolyne in TX

Previously on alt.tv.stargate-atlantis, Ken from Chicago said:

> > Oh, it's better than that -- if you dial Earth directly, you'd have
> > stopped the Wraith at Midway.
> They could have tried--but the gate was occupied with the Wraith dialing in.

I think the point is that SGA didn't even try. If they had, they might
have gotten through before the Wraith, which would logically result in
the SGC opening the passage to Midway from their end. With a
coordinated effort from Atlantis, they'd then have trapped the Wraith
in between.

--
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a spooky old house on a dare, don't sneak away to another part of the
house for romantic interludes with your Significant Other. Wait until
you can get a nice, clean, safe motel room.

Ken from Chicago wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-D74FD8.17131517022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
>> In article <tN-dnVrRtJDS2iranZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> P.S. Oh and it showed machine guns are simply not all that "romantic" a
>>> weapon. There's something far more cinematic about hand-to-hand, melee
>>> weapons, polearms, even single-shot weapons (Teal'c and Ronon looked far
>>> "cooler" using, respectively, a zat and Ronon's gun)
>> Oh, yeah -- now we know for a fact that zats work just fine on Wraith.
>> SO WHY DOESN'T SGA HAVE ANY???
>>
>> --
>> Star Trek 09:
>>
>> No Shat, No Show.
>
> Zats are single-shot weapons. Machine guns are point and sweep.
>
> And handguns are smaller, tho I think the extra size might be worth it for
> the guarantee of a one-hit / one-stun. However that brings up what powers
> them.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
>
>

You're not using single-shot in the standard way here. Single-shot