Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?

Agent Smith wrote:
> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?

Whenever the new season starts; there won't be any more this spring.

Agent Smith <agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:

> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>
>

Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.

"M. Halbrook" <mdhalbrook@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.99. 130:

> Agent Smith <agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>
>> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>>
>
> Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.

That's a loong time off.

On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
left.com> wrote:
> "M. Halbrook" <mdhalbr...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.9 9.130:
>
> > Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
> >news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>
> >> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>
> > Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.
>
> That's a loong time off.

Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions need to be
made about directions to go in. I'd like to think all that time will
deliver a superior product (like Season 1).

Yabahoobs <chendrikson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a6974b78-9fe5-40da-9294-59fefcf1c5c8@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> left.com> wrote:
>> "M. Halbrook" <mdhalbr...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> innews:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.9 9.130:
>>
>> > Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
>> >news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>>
>> >> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>>
>> > Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.
>>
>> That's a loong time off.
>
> Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions need to be
> made about directions to go in. I'd like to think all that time will
> deliver a superior product (like Season 1).

Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about saving the
world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and their problems were
just being introduced. Last season, they plagiarized themselves, and I
suspect that this will continue. Who'd have thought that formula
writing would be produced by comic book creators. ;(

On Feb 21, 7:03 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
left.com> wrote:
> Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote innews:a6974b78-9fe5-40da-9294-59fefcf1c5c8@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> > left.com> wrote:
> >> "M. Halbrook" <mdhalbr...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> innews:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.9 9.130:
>
> >> > Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
> >> >news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>
> >> >> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>
> >> > Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.
>
> >> That's a loong time off.
>
> > Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions need to be
> > made about directions to go in. I'd like to think all that time will
> > deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>
> Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about saving the
> world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and their problems were
> just being introduced. Last season, they plagiarized themselves, and I
> suspect that this will continue. Who'd have thought that formula
> writing would be produced by comic book creators. ;(

Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a season.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:44:53 GMT, Agent Smith
<agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:

>"M. Halbrook" <mdhalbrook@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.99. 130:
>
>> Agent Smith <agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>>
>>> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>>>
>>
>> Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.
>
>That's a loong time off.

Delayed gratification. But at least next season will be a longer one.

Yabahoobs <chendrikson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:96da5a5d-181b-4e63-a566-aa9a0717857c@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 21, 7:03 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> left.com> wrote:
>> Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:a6974b78-9fe5-40da-9294-59fefcf1c5c8@
60g2000hsy.googlegroups.co
>> m:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
>> > left.com> wrote:
>> >> "M. Halbrook" <mdhalbr...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> >> innews:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.9 9.130:
>>
>> >> > Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
>> >> >news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>>
>> >> >> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>>
>> >> > Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.
>>
>> >> That's a loong time off.
>>
>> > Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions need to
>> > be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think all that time
>> > will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>>
>> Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about saving
>> the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and their problems
>> were just being introduced. Last season, they plagiarized
>> themselves, and I suspect that this will continue. Who'd have
>> thought that formula writing would be produced by comic book
>> creators. ;(
>
> Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
> total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
> mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
> mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
> writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a season.

Unfortunately, conquering and destroying the world are the staples of
comic book writing, and I can't see how they can escape it as a plot
device. If they choose a story of lesser impact, they will forever fall
short of their success in season 1. ;(

David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote in
news:13err392loaq7j5t72qvegg39sknqqmh02@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:44:53 GMT, Agent Smith
> <agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:
>
>>"M. Halbrook" <mdhalbrook@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.99. 130:
>>
>>> Agent Smith <agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>>>
>>>> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>>>
>>> Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.
>>
>> That's a loong time off.
>
> Delayed gratification. But at least next season will be a longer one.

I don't think that Hollywood is about delayed gratification. :( I
think they should start in May and then take the fall off. Then, by
next spring, they will be back on schedule.

That's why it makes sense for NBC to have announced that they will no
longer make the distinction between summer and a "regular" programming
season. I watch tv in the summer, and I'm sure everybody else does,
too. I mean, what's the origin of that dumb tradition, anyhow? Does it
involve an agrarian society and a harvest?

On Feb 21, 12:33 pm, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
left.com> wrote:
> Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote innews:96da5a5d-181b-4e63-a566-aa9a0717857c@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Feb 21, 7:03 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> > left.com> wrote:
> >> Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> innews:a6974b78-9fe5-40da-9294-59fefcf1c5c8@
>
> 60g2000hsy.googlegroups.co
>
>
>
> >> m:
>
> >> > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> >> > left.com> wrote:
> >> >> "M. Halbrook" <mdhalbr...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> >> innews:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.9 9.130:
>
> >> >> > Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in
> >> >> >news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>
> >> >> >> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>
> >> >> > Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.
>
> >> >> That's a loong time off.
>
> >> > Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions need to
> >> > be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think all that time
> >> > will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>
> >> Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about saving
> >> the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and their problems
> >> were just being introduced. Last season, they plagiarized
> >> themselves, and I suspect that this will continue. Who'd have
> >> thought that formula writing would be produced by comic book
> >> creators. ;(
>
> > Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
> > total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
> > mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
> > mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
> > writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a season.
>
> Unfortunately, conquering and destroying the world are the staples of
> comic book writing, and I can't see how they can escape it as a plot
> device. If they choose a story of lesser impact, they will forever fall
> short of their success in season 1. ;(

You're probaably right there...But I was referring more to the empty
writing of S2 like the Claire romantic arc...The numerous new
characters all poorly developed and overall lame. People dont' want
an hour of 45 second scenes of 67 characters. And we CERTAINLY don't
want those 45 second scenes to be filled with cheesy "Saved By the
Bell"-esque plotlines.

Yabahoobs <chendrikson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:181d23dc-55cb-4b5b-a795-6c08b933eefb@71g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 21, 12:33 pm, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
> left.com> wrote:
>> Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:96da5a5d-181b-4e63-a566-
aa9a0717857c@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.co
>> m:
>>
>> > On Feb 21, 7:03 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
>> > left.com> wrote:
>> >> Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> innews:a6974b78-9fe5-40da-9294-59fefcf1c5c8@
>>
>> 60g2000hsy.googlegroups.co
>>
>>
>>
>> >> m:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
>> >> > left.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "M. Halbrook" <mdhalbr...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> >> >> innews:Xns9A48818B92344mdhalbrookyahoocom@140.99.9 9.130:
>>
>> >> >> > Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >news:Xns9A486F6AB5402agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115. 17.102:
>>
>> >> >> >> Has there been any announced date when Heroes will resume?
>>
>> >> >> > Fall Season, along with Chuck & Life for sure.
>>
>> >> >> That's a loong time off.
>>
>> >> > Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions need
>> >> > to be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think all
>> >> > that time will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>>
>> >> Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about
>> >> saving the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and
>> >> their problems were just being introduced. Last season, they
>> >> plagiarized themselves, and I suspect that this will continue.
>> >> Who'd have thought that formula writing would be produced by comic
>> >> book creators. ;(
>>
>> > Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
>> > total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
>> > mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
>> > mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
>> > writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a season.
>>
>> Unfortunately, conquering and destroying the world are the staples of
>> comic book writing, and I can't see how they can escape it as a plot
>> device. If they choose a story of lesser impact, they will forever
>> fall short of their success in season 1. ;(
>
> You're probaably right there...But I was referring more to the empty
> writing of S2 like the Claire romantic arc...The numerous new
> characters all poorly developed and overall lame. People dont' want
> an hour of 45 second scenes of 67 characters. And we CERTAINLY don't
> want those 45 second scenes to be filled with cheesy "Saved By the
> Bell"-esque plotlines.

I don't follow this last reference, but again, one of the important
ingredients in the success of season 1 was the introduction of all the
characters and their problems. That's one thing that makes comics
great, but you only get one chance to introduce a character, and after
that, we know them. Even though they have introduced some very
sympathetic new heroes, it may be impossible for the writers to reclaim
the magic of that first season.

In article <Xns9A4B94B3E2858agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115.17.10 2>,
Agent Smith <agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:

> That's why it makes sense for NBC to have announced that they will no
> longer make the distinction between summer and a "regular"
> programming season. I watch tv in the summer, and I'm sure everybody
> else does, too. I mean, what's the origin of that dumb tradition,
> anyhow? Does it involve an agrarian society and a harvest?

It involves "Summer vacation". Back in the early days of television, it
was headquartered in New York City. One of the traditions there was
that people took Summer vacations, and went "to the mountains".
Usually, that meant the wives and children would spend two to eight
weeks at a resort hotel in the Catskills, and the husbands would spend
two weeks there, plus the weekends if the rest of the family were there
for longer than two weeks. This cut into the viewer population, and
also the employees work times.

So there would be Summer reruns of the more popular shows, if they had
been kinescoped; however, more often than not were Summer replacement
shows. Those shows were not expected to have high ratings, but if one
caught on, it could pick up a regular season contract.

--
Support the troops: Bring them home ASAP.

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:51:11 -0800 (PST), Yabahoobs wrote:

[snip]

> Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
> total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
> mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
> mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
> writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a season.

Universal hatred, total failure??? Um no. S2 had a lot of weaknesses but
universal hatred is overstating it by a long way. It had some very good
individual episodes up there with the best of S1.

--
"Oft 'tis startling to reveal, what the murky depths conceal." - Steven
Brust

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in
news:michelle-D3D5A3.13333821022008@news.west.cox.net:

> In article <Xns9A4B94B3E2858agentsmithtwoblockso@207.115.17.10 2>,
> Agent Smith <agent-smith@two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:
>
>> That's why it makes sense for NBC to have announced that they will no
>> longer make the distinction between summer and a "regular"
>> programming season. I watch tv in the summer, and I'm sure everybody
>> else does, too. I mean, what's the origin of that dumb tradition,
>> anyhow? Does it involve an agrarian society and a harvest?
>
> It involves "Summer vacation". Back in the early days of television,
> it was headquartered in New York City. One of the traditions there
> was that people took Summer vacations, and went "to the mountains".
> Usually, that meant the wives and children would spend two to eight
> weeks at a resort hotel in the Catskills, and the husbands would spend
> two weeks there, plus the weekends if the rest of the family were
> there for longer than two weeks. This cut into the viewer population,
> and also the employees work times.
>
> So there would be Summer reruns of the more popular shows, if they had
> been kinescoped; however, more often than not were Summer replacement
> shows. Those shows were not expected to have high ratings, but if one
> caught on, it could pick up a regular season contract.

I enjoy the launch of new shows for the summer. Most of the stuff os
total crap, but every now and again something good stands out. I have
fond memory of a Drew Carey summer season, when the show was tying to
keep its head above water.

On Feb 21, 3:19 pm, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
left.com> wrote:

> I don't follow this last reference, but again, one of the important
> ingredients in the success of season 1 was the introduction of all the
> characters and their problems.

That doesn't necessarily mean that we want another season of
introducing new characters and their problems. Once the ball's
rolling, don't let it stop. That's why I hope Origins makes it into
production, because separate stand alone episodes are the way to bring
in the new blood.

On Feb 21, 10:51 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 21, Agent Smith <agent-sm...> wrote:
> > Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith wrote:
>
> >>> That's a loong time off.
>
> >> Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions
> >> need to be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think
> >> all that time will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>
> > Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about
> > saving the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and
> > their problems were just being introduced. Last season, they
> > plagiarized themselves, and I suspect that this will continue.
> > Who'd have thought that formula writing would be produced by
> > comic book creators. ;(
>
> Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
> total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
> mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
> mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
> writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a
> season.

Well, the "big threat" in S1 was the destruction of a chunk of NYC. In
S2 it was the extermination of most humans on the planet. I guess S3
will threaten not only earth-humans, but other critters throughout the
entire galaxy. Now the disappointments; the "big explosion" of S1
couldn't even harm a wallet, and the "deadly plague" of S2 was almost
released not by the villain, but by our stupidest and most gullible
wallet-owner. Will S3 explore the depths of stupidity and gullibility
of the other Heroes and their wallets? Do we even care?

"Davej" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:be875a0d-60f1-4dba-ae19-e09e089dfcca@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 21, 10:51 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 21, Agent Smith <agent-sm...> wrote:
>> > Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith wrote:
>>
>> >>> That's a loong time off.
>>
>> >> Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions
>> >> need to be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think
>> >> all that time will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>>
>> > Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about
>> > saving the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and
>> > their problems were just being introduced. Last season, they
>> > plagiarized themselves, and I suspect that this will continue.
>> > Who'd have thought that formula writing would be produced by
>> > comic book creators. ;(
>>
>> Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
>> total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
>> mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
>> mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
>> writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a
>> season.
>
> Well, the "big threat" in S1 was the destruction of a chunk of NYC. In
> S2 it was the extermination of most humans on the planet. I guess S3
> will threaten not only earth-humans, but other critters throughout the
> entire galaxy. Now the disappointments; the "big explosion" of S1
> couldn't even harm a wallet, and the "deadly plague" of S2 was almost
> released not by the villain, but by our stupidest and most gullible
> wallet-owner. Will S3 explore the depths of stupidity and gullibility
> of the other Heroes and their wallets? Do we even care?

Then stop watching.
No one is going to care if you do.

Just stop trolling here. Go hang out out the wrestling newsgroup and troll
them.

--
Rev. Aaron *Brother Head* Moss
http://brotherhead.com
Merry Christmas to all!

On Feb 28, 9:52 am, "Aaron *Brother Head* Moss"
<thebrot...@brotherhead.com> wrote:
> "Davej" <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:be875a0d-60f1-4dba-ae19-e09e089dfcca@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:51 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 21, Agent Smith <agent-sm...> wrote:
> >> > Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> > > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith wrote:
>
> >> >>> That's a loong time off.
>
> >> >> Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions
> >> >> need to be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think
> >> >> all that time will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>
> >> > Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about
> >> > saving the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and
> >> > their problems were just being introduced. Last season, they
> >> > plagiarized themselves, and I suspect that this will continue.
> >> > Who'd have thought that formula writing would be produced by
> >> > comic book creators. ;(
>
> >> Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
> >> total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
> >> mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
> >> mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
> >> writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a
> >> season.
>
> > Well, the "big threat" in S1 was the destruction of a chunk of NYC. In
> > S2 it was the extermination of most humans on the planet. I guess S3
> > will threaten not only earth-humans, but other critters throughout the
> > entire galaxy. Now the disappointments; the "big explosion" of S1
> > couldn't even harm a wallet, and the "deadly plague" of S2 was almost
> > released not by the villain, but by our stupidest and most gullible
> > wallet-owner. Will S3 explore the depths of stupidity and gullibility
> > of the other Heroes and their wallets? Do we even care?
>
> Then stop watching.
> No one is going to care if you do.

Well, S1 had some truly excellent moments. Maybe they can get back to
that. It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with saving the planet. It has
EVERYTHING to do with these people using their new abilities
intelligently and with finesse.

"Davej" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:88323d51-7284-4540-a4fc-cd4563f2fc47@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 28, 9:52 am, "Aaron *Brother Head* Moss"
> <thebrot...@brotherhead.com> wrote:
>> "Davej" <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:be875a0d-60f1-4dba-ae19-e09e089dfcca@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 21, 10:51 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Feb 21, Agent Smith <agent-sm...> wrote:
>> >> > Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> > > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> That's a loong time off.
>>
>> >> >> Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions
>> >> >> need to be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think
>> >> >> all that time will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>>
>> >> > Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about
>> >> > saving the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and
>> >> > their problems were just being introduced. Last season, they
>> >> > plagiarized themselves, and I suspect that this will continue.
>> >> > Who'd have thought that formula writing would be produced by
>> >> > comic book creators. ;(
>>
>> >> Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
>> >> total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
>> >> mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
>> >> mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
>> >> writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a
>> >> season.
>>
>> > Well, the "big threat" in S1 was the destruction of a chunk of NYC. In
>> > S2 it was the extermination of most humans on the planet. I guess S3
>> > will threaten not only earth-humans, but other critters throughout the
>> > entire galaxy. Now the disappointments; the "big explosion" of S1
>> > couldn't even harm a wallet, and the "deadly plague" of S2 was almost
>> > released not by the villain, but by our stupidest and most gullible
>> > wallet-owner. Will S3 explore the depths of stupidity and gullibility
>> > of the other Heroes and their wallets? Do we even care?
>>
>> Then stop watching.
>> No one is going to care if you do.
>
> Well, S1 had some truly excellent moments. Maybe they can get back to
> that. It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with saving the planet. It has
> EVERYTHING to do with these people using their new abilities
> intelligently and with finesse.

Good fiction of any kind always has more to do with the characters than the
situation.

On Feb 28, 2:36 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
wrote:
> "Davej" <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > On Feb 28, 9:52 am, "Aaron *Brother Head* Moss" wrote:
> >> "Davej" <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > On Feb 21, 10:51 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Feb 21, Agent Smith <agent-sm...> wrote:
> >> >> > Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> >> > > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith wrote:
>
> >> >> >>> That's a loong time off.
>
> >> >> >> Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions
> >> >> >> need to be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think
> >> >> >> all that time will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>
> >> >> > Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about
> >> >> > saving the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and
> >> >> > their problems were just being introduced. Last season, they
> >> >> > plagiarized themselves, and I suspect that this will continue.
> >> >> > Who'd have thought that formula writing would be produced by
> >> >> > comic book creators. ;(
>
> >> >> Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
> >> >> total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
> >> >> mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
> >> >> mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
> >> >> writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a
> >> >> season.
>
> >> > Well, the "big threat" in S1 was the destruction of a chunk of NYC. In
> >> > S2 it was the extermination of most humans on the planet. I guess S3
> >> > will threaten not only earth-humans, but other critters throughout the
> >> > entire galaxy. Now the disappointments; the "big explosion" of S1
> >> > couldn't even harm a wallet, and the "deadly plague" of S2 was almost
> >> > released not by the villain, but by our stupidest and most gullible
> >> > wallet-owner. Will S3 explore the depths of stupidity and gullibility
> >> > of the other Heroes and their wallets? Do we even care?
>
> >> Then stop watching.
> >> No one is going to care if you do.
>
> > Well, S1 had some truly excellent moments. Maybe they can get
> > back to that. It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with saving the planet.
> > It has EVERYTHING to do with these people using their new abilities
> > intelligently and with finesse.
>
> Good fiction of any kind always has more to do with the characters
> than the situation.

And you don't create believable characters.by having them behave
illogically or randomly. Why did the Haitian erase Peter's memory? Why
didn't Peter teleport into the vault? Why does Nathan ignore his own
daughter? Why was Sylar saved? Why did Matt's father attack him? This
list can't keep growing with no answers.

"Davej" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 28, 2:36 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
> wrote:
>> "Davej" <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote
>> > On Feb 28, 9:52 am, "Aaron *Brother Head* Moss" wrote:
>> >> "Davej" <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> > On Feb 21, 10:51 am, Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Feb 21, Agent Smith <agent-sm...> wrote:
>> >> >> > Yabahoobs <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> > > On Feb 19, 7:44 am, Agent Smith wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >>> That's a loong time off.
>>
>> >> >> >> Good. Things need to be looked at carefully, and decisions
>> >> >> >> need to be made about directions to go in. I'd like to think
>> >> >> >> all that time will deliver a superior product (like Season 1).
>>
>> >> >> > Season one may have been an anomaly, because the story about
>> >> >> > saving the world hadn't yet been done, and the characters and
>> >> >> > their problems were just being introduced. Last season, they
>> >> >> > plagiarized themselves, and I suspect that this will continue.
>> >> >> > Who'd have thought that formula writing would be produced by
>> >> >> > comic book creators. ;(
>>
>> >> >> Given the universal hatred of S2, and Kring's own admission of it's
>> >> >> total failure I am pretty certain they will not repeat THOSE
>> >> >> mistakes...Granted they may (and likely will) make other, NEW
>> >> >> mistakes...But given all the idle time...I was always thinking the
>> >> >> writers have PLENTY of time now to come up with a GEM of a
>> >> >> season.
>>
>> >> > Well, the "big threat" in S1 was the destruction of a chunk of NYC.
>> >> > In
>> >> > S2 it was the extermination of most humans on the planet. I guess S3
>> >> > will threaten not only earth-humans, but other critters throughout
>> >> > the
>> >> > entire galaxy. Now the disappointments; the "big explosion" of S1
>> >> > couldn't even harm a wallet, and the "deadly plague" of S2 was
>> >> > almost
>> >> > released not by the villain, but by our stupidest and most gullible
>> >> > wallet-owner. Will S3 explore the depths of stupidity and
>> >> > gullibility
>> >> > of the other Heroes and their wallets? Do we even care?
>>
>> >> Then stop watching.
>> >> No one is going to care if you do.
>>
>> > Well, S1 had some truly excellent moments. Maybe they can get
>> > back to that. It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with saving the planet.
>> > It has EVERYTHING to do with these people using their new abilities
>> > intelligently and with finesse.
>>
>> Good fiction of any kind always has more to do with the characters
>> than the situation.
>
> And you don't create believable characters.by having them behave
> illogically or randomly. Why did the Haitian erase Peter's memory?

The fact that we don't know why he did it does make it either illogical or
random. Perhaps you don't understand the concept of mystery?

>Why
> didn't Peter teleport into the vault?

You'd have to ask him to be sure, but I'd say most likely he just "didn't
think of it". Mostly, because the writers wanted it that way though.

>Why does Nathan ignore his own
> daughter?

Why does any father ignore his own daughter? This type of illogical
behavior goes on all the time.

>Why was Sylar saved?

It's a comic book basis, dude. They never kill off a good villian. Whether
*you* think he's a good villain is irrelavant as long as TPTB think so. Why
did they not kill off Adam?

>Why did Matt's father attack him?

Becasue Matt stood between him and someone he wanted to kill. What part of
"evil" do you not understand?

>This
> list can't keep growing with no answers.

This list is entirely different than the list from last season, so I'd say
the real problem is your lack of understanding how these things work.

On Mar 2, 4:32 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net> wrote:

> >Why was Sylar saved?

> It's a comic book basis, dude.  They never kill off a good villian.  Whether
> *you* think he's a good villain is irrelavant as long as TPTB think so.  Why
> did they not kill off Adam?

Adam is immortal, though. Have to jump the shark to get that done,
but I liked him. I hope Sylar decides on trying to dig him up.

<remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 2, 4:32 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net> wrote:

> >Why was Sylar saved?

> It's a comic book basis, dude. They never kill off a good villian. Whether
> *you* think he's a good villain is irrelavant as long as TPTB think so.
> Why
> did they not kill off Adam?

Adam is immortal, though. Have to jump the shark to get that done,
but I liked him. I hope Sylar decides on trying to dig him up.

Sylar will have to find out about him first, but I wouldn't be surprised if
he did. Isn't that another comic staple? Villains get together, cause a
lot of trouble, and then betray each other?

On Mar 12, 10:46 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
wrote:

> Sylar will have to find out about him first, but I wouldn't be surprised if
> he did.  Isn't that another comic staple?  Villains get together, cause a
> lot of trouble, and then betray each other?

What if Hiro had to save Adam from Sylar?

<remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 12, 10:46 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
wrote:

> Sylar will have to find out about him first, but I wouldn't be surprised
> if
> he did. Isn't that another comic staple? Villains get together, cause a
> lot of trouble, and then betray each other?

What if Hiro had to save Adam from Sylar?

Why would Hiro have to save Adam from anybody. Adam is essentially
inviolable. Which begs the question, is Adam in that coffin because Hiro
wanted to pay him back for putting his father in a coffin - or because Hiro
tried to kill him and found he couldn't?

"Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>
> <remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:51e4f4e1-8ec6-4637-a26a-47f58cb8b36f@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 12, 10:46 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Sylar will have to find out about him first, but I wouldn't be surprised
>> if
>> he did. Isn't that another comic staple? Villains get together, cause a
>> lot of trouble, and then betray each other?
>
> What if Hiro had to save Adam from Sylar?
>
> Why would Hiro have to save Adam from anybody. Adam is essentially
> inviolable.
^^^^^^^^ Damn spell checker. That should be unkillable.


>Which begs the question, is Adam in that coffin because Hiro wanted to pay
>him back for putting his father in a coffin - or because Hiro tried to kill
>him and found he couldn't?
>
>

Scríobh "Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net>:
>
>"Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net> wrote in message
>news:frf90u$eu2$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> <remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:51e4f4e1-8ec6-4637-a26a-47f58cb8b36f@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 12, 10:46 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sylar will have to find out about him first, but I wouldn't be surprised
>>> if
>>> he did. Isn't that another comic staple? Villains get together, cause a
>>> lot of trouble, and then betray each other?
>>
>> What if Hiro had to save Adam from Sylar?
>>
>> Why would Hiro have to save Adam from anybody. Adam is essentially
>> inviolable.
> ^^^^^^^^ Damn spell checker. That should be unkillable.

IIRC, Mama Petrelli told Nathan a headshot would kill Adam. And as to
why Hiro would have to save him, just imagine Sylar with immortality.

>>Which begs the question, is Adam in that coffin because Hiro wanted to pay
>>him back for putting his father in a coffin - or because Hiro tried to kill
>>him and found he couldn't?
>>
>>

--
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"Féachadóir" <Féach@d.óir> wrote in message
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> Scríobh "Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net>:
>>
>>"Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net> wrote in message
>>news:frf90u$eu2$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> <remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:51e4f4e1-8ec6-4637-a26a-47f58cb8b36f@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Mar 12, 10:46 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sylar will have to find out about him first, but I wouldn't be
>>>> surprised
>>>> if
>>>> he did. Isn't that another comic staple? Villains get together, cause a
>>>> lot of trouble, and then betray each other?
>>>
>>> What if Hiro had to save Adam from Sylar?
>>>
>>> Why would Hiro have to save Adam from anybody. Adam is essentially
>>> inviolable.
>> ^^^^^^^^ Damn spell checker. That should be unkillable.
>
> IIRC, Mama Petrelli told Nathan a headshot would kill Adam. And as to
> why Hiro would have to save him, just imagine Sylar with immortality.

She did say that - but think about it. HRG was killed by a head shot, and
Clair's blood brought him back. How does she know a head shot would kill
him? It's obviously never been tried.

I might add that one of the few problems I have with the show is how Sylar
could ever get Clair's or Adam's power, since he has to get to the brain to
do it, and they heal almost as fast as he could cut them open.

"Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Féachadóir" <Féach@d.óir> wrote in message
> news:k9sst3p2e5qvpfl36i33bos7n4uiq1icu1@4ax.com...
>> Scríobh "Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net>:
>>>
>>>"Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net> wrote in message
>>>news:frf90u$eu2$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>> <remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:51e4f4e1-8ec6-4637-a26a-47f58cb8b36f@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Mar 12, 10:46 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sylar will have to find out about him first, but I wouldn't be
>>>>> surprised
>>>>> if
>>>>> he did. Isn't that another comic staple? Villains get together, cause
>>>>> a
>>>>> lot of trouble, and then betray each other?
>>>>
>>>> What if Hiro had to save Adam from Sylar?
>>>>
>>>> Why would Hiro have to save Adam from anybody. Adam is essentially
>>>> inviolable.
>>> ^^^^^^^^ Damn spell checker. That should be unkillable.
>>
>> IIRC, Mama Petrelli told Nathan a headshot would kill Adam. And as to
>> why Hiro would have to save him, just imagine Sylar with immortality.
>
> She did say that - but think about it. HRG was killed by a head shot, and
> Clair's blood brought him back. How does she know a head shot would kill
> him? It's obviously never been tried.

I agree with you on this.

Everyone seems to take what a character on the show says as gospel.

>
> I might add that one of the few problems I have with the show is how Sylar
> could ever get Clair's or Adam's power, since he has to get to the brain
> to do it, and they heal almost as fast as he could cut them open.

Actually, if he was to use his TK ability to keep the wound open, I think he
could get the top of the head off and then in to the brain.

--
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"Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if
you win, you're still a ******"

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>
> "Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Féachadóir" <Féach@d.óir> wrote in message
>> news:k9sst3p2e5qvpfl36i33bos7n4uiq1icu1@4ax.com...
>>> Scríobh "Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net>:
>>>>
>>>>"Dragonlady" <dragonladynospam@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> <remysun2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:51e4f4e1-8ec6-4637-a26a-47f58cb8b36f@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Mar 12, 10:46 pm, "Dragonlady" <dragonladynos...@cableone.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylar will have to find out about him first, but I wouldn't be
>>>>>> surprised
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> he did. Isn't that another comic staple? Villains get together, cause
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> lot of trouble, and then betray each other?
>>>>>
>>>>> What if Hiro had to save Adam from Sylar?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would Hiro have to save Adam from anybody. Adam is essentially
>>>>> inviolable.
>>>> ^^^^^^^^ Damn spell checker. That should be unkillable.
>>>
>>> IIRC, Mama Petrelli told Nathan a headshot would kill Adam. And as to
>>> why Hiro would have to save him, just imagine Sylar with immortality.
>>
>> She did say that - but think about it. HRG was killed by a head shot,
>> and Clair's blood brought him back. How does she know a head shot would
>> kill him? It's obviously never been tried.
>
> I agree with you on this.
>
> Everyone seems to take what a character on the show says as gospel.

Yes, and that theory has already been proved wrong. Remember Peter saying
he had to think of the people he got the powers from in order to activate
them? If you really think about it, that could be proved untrue before he
even said it!

>
>>
>> I might add that one of the few problems I have with the show is how
>> Sylar could ever get Clair's or Adam's power, since he has to get to the
>> brain to do it, and they heal almost as fast as he could cut them open.
>
> Actually, if he was to use his TK ability to keep the wound open, I think
> he could get the top of the head off and then in to the brain.

I suppose it's a possibility. Guess it would depend on which power was more
powerful. :P

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