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George Avalos
02-21-2008, 03:02 AM
"Midway"
2-15-08 SGA

5 stars (Fletcher)

0-1 stars (Nagumo)

-George

David B
02-21-2008, 04:00 AM
George Avalos wrote:

> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> -George

4

Tim Bruening
02-21-2008, 06:23 AM
George Avalos wrote:

> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)

3 stars. What took so long?

Tim Bruening
02-21-2008, 06:24 AM
George Avalos wrote:

> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)

Who are those guys?

David Chapman
02-21-2008, 06:33 AM
From the Collected Witterings of George Avalos, volume 23:
> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)

3.5. Teal'c vs Ronon is the stuff of fandom legend.

puzzlrr
02-21-2008, 07:51 AM
"George Avalos" <georgeavalos0@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13rqca46rmp0he0@news.supernews.com...
> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> -George
>

4.5 stars

I thought, 'oh, no, not another SG-1 reject', but it was better than I
expected, plus it had a lot of action.

Puzz

whodunit
02-21-2008, 07:57 AM
George Avalos wrote:
> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> -George
>
>
5! :-)

T'ealc appearance 3.5.
Ronon's attitude problems with him 1.
..5 for best line of the episode:

T'ealc: I would very much like to have a weapon like that!!
Ronon: Get in line!!

:-)

Anim8rFSK
02-21-2008, 09:15 AM
I'm already on record as giving it a

4

despite that it doesn't hold up to scrutiny at all. At least it was fun.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

erilar
02-21-2008, 10:17 AM
In article <13rqca46rmp0he0@news.supernews.com>,
"George Avalos" <georgeavalos0@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> -George

The idea may not be new, but I really loved the Tealc/Ronon interaction;
THAT part was worth 5 stars, but I have to deduct for the general
stupidity otherwise. It was great fun, though.

4.0

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

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bc_gisele
02-21-2008, 10:37 AM
"George Avalos" <georgeavalos0@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:13rqca46rmp0he0@news.supernews.com:

> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> -George

3.8

Gisele

David V. Loewe, Jr
02-21-2008, 11:23 AM
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:24:20 -0800, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

>George Avalos wrote:
>
>> "Midway"
>> 2-15-08 SGA
>>
>> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>>
>> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
>Who are those guys?

There is this thing called Wikipedia. If you don't like that, there's
this thing called Google.

Frank Jack Fletcher was the senior US Navy officer present at the
Battle Of Midway. Admiral Fletcher commanded Task Force 17
(Yorktown). Additionally, Raymond Spruance is given a lot of credit
for the outcome. Admiral Spruance commanded Task Force 16 (Enterprise
and Hornet) at Midway because Admiral Halsey, the normal TF-16
commander, was ill and in the hospital.

Nagumo Chuichi was the commander of Kido Butai (the Japanese Carrier
Strike Force) at Pearl Harbor and at Midway.

Fletcher and Spruance kicked Nagumo's butt at Midway - losing
Yorktown, but sinking all four Japanese carriers (Akagi, Kaga, Soryu
and Hiryu) present at the battle.
--
"I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I
want to be controlling it."
- Clint Eastwood in "Pink Cadillac"

PV
02-21-2008, 01:21 PM
"George Avalos" <georgeavalos0@yahoo.com> writes:
>"Midway"
>2-15-08 SGA
>
>5 stars (Fletcher)

4.0. Every once in a while, it's good to let the badasses get together and
bust things up. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

David V. Loewe, Jr
02-21-2008, 01:46 PM
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:02:08 -0800, "George Avalos"
<georgeavalos0@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Midway"
>2-15-08 SGA
>
>5 stars (Fletcher)
>
>0-1 stars (Nagumo)

You're not leaving us much room here. Basically, everyone at Midway
performed either fantastically or horribly.

I'm going to give it a 4.25 (C. Wade McClusky), mostly deducting for
being predictable. It was still fun.
--
"Trust me... I know what I'm doing."
- Sledge Hammer

Fred Ellis
02-21-2008, 02:29 PM
George Avalos wrote:
>
> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> -George

I give it 5 Stars. It was a really great episode. I enjoyed watching
Teal'c and Ronon learning to work together. They were one bad-*** team.


Fred Ellis
--
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(To e-mail me, remove the X from my address)

Beth Smarr
02-21-2008, 06:22 PM
Fred Ellis wrote:
> George Avalos wrote:
>> "Midway"
>> 2-15-08 SGA
>>
>> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>>
>> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>>
>> -George
>
> I give it 5 Stars. It was a really great episode. I enjoyed watching
> Teal'c and Ronon learning to work together. They were one bad-*** team.
>
>
> Fred Ellis

Indeed!

--

********
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Martin
02-21-2008, 07:06 PM
"Beth Smarr" <beth.smarr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:6Jnvj.11459$kI4.7999@trnddc05...
> Fred Ellis wrote:
>> George Avalos wrote:
>>> "Midway"
>>> 2-15-08 SGA
>>>
>>> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>>>
>>> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>>>
>>> -George
>>
>> I give it 5 Stars. It was a really great episode. I enjoyed watching
>> Teal'c and Ronon learning to work together. They were one bad-*** team.
>>
>>
>> Fred Ellis
>
> Indeed!
>
> --
>
> ********


I still think it was rather predictable. When they did the episode Sateda I
liked it because Ronan was one his own, BUT at the end it was the Doc that
saved him and that was quite a good plot twist rather than the obvious Ronan
beating the crap out of baddie wraith.

Midway was just to obvious a storyline, there was NO decent plot twist to
take it away from the usual alpha males fighting each other crap. Are we
really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have stopped
it? Why didn't Carter give him a bollocking for that?

A good ending for Midway would have been to have the two "tough guys" pinned
down by the Wraith and about to do their final Butch and Sundance last
stand, only to have Walter save the day.

Pete B
02-21-2008, 08:09 PM
In article <13rqca46rmp0he0@news.supernews.com>, georgeavalos0@yahoo.com
says...
> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>

Fluff, but with a plesant feel to it - 3.5

Pete B
02-21-2008, 08:10 PM
In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
nonhere@nonhere.com says...
> A good ending for Midway would have been to have the two "tough guys" pinned
> down by the Wraith and about to do their final Butch and Sundance last
> stand, only to have Walter save the day.
>
>

No :)

A Watcher
02-21-2008, 09:54 PM
George Avalos wrote:
> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> -George
>
>

4.5

It was a dumb story, but very entertaining. Yes indeed!

cloud dreamer
02-21-2008, 10:01 PM
George Avalos wrote:
> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> -George
>
>

4.5

Teal'c and Ronin.....'nuff said...

..

--

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or the climate will do it for us.


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Zombie Elvis
02-21-2008, 11:23 PM
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:02:08 -0800, "George Avalos"
<georgeavalos0@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Midway"
>2-15-08 SGA
>
>5 stars (Fletcher)
>
>0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
Fun.

4.2183561

Brian Henderson
02-22-2008, 04:59 AM
George Avalos wrote:
> "Midway"
> 2-15-08 SGA
>
> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>
> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)

3.5 maybe and that's being a bit generous. There were a lot of really
stupid things going on in this episode and in the end, it was just an
excuse to get rid of the Midway Station so that Atlantis is cut off once
again and cannot be easily rescued by Earth.

It was nice to see Teal'c again though, even though his first encounter
with Ronan had Ronan badly, badly written.

--
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Anim8rFSK
02-22-2008, 10:15 AM
In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:

> Are we
> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have stopped
> it?

That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
Sheppard stop it?

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Martin
02-22-2008, 10:44 AM
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-B4F265.08151422022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Are we
>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>> stopped
>> it?
>
> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> Sheppard stop it?

Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member of
his?

David V. Loewe, Jr
02-22-2008, 11:23 AM
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
wrote:

>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are we
>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>>> stopped
>>> it?
>>
>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
>> Sheppard stop it?
>
>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member of
>his?
>
And... ?

He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
services have boxing teams for God's sakes.
--
"I pissed a lot of people off today. I'm good at that."
-- Tim Masterson

Anim8rFSK
02-22-2008, 01:27 PM
In article <RoydnfjQfvhpcCPanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-B4F265.08151422022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> > In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> > "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are we
> >> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> >> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >> stopped
> >> it?
> >
> > That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> > Sheppard stop it?
>
> Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member of
> his?

So what? He has sparring matches resulting in injuries with Ronon
himself routinely.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Anim8rFSK
02-22-2008, 01:28 PM
In article <8lttr3l04f94uigqpfse3t2teud0fnos09@4ax.com>,
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are we
> >>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> >>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >>> stopped
> >>> it?
> >>
> >> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> >> Sheppard stop it?
> >
> >Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member of
> >his?
> >
> And... ?
>
> He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
> services have boxing teams for God's sakes.

And it's not like it was in the mess hall.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

erilar
02-22-2008, 03:04 PM
In article
<ANIM8Rfsk-B4F265.08151422022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>
> > Are we
> > really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> > stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> > stopped
> > it?
>
> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> Sheppard stop it?

aaaaaaahhhhhh training session ? 8-) And I agree; people betting on
it struck me as quite believable.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

erilar
02-22-2008, 03:05 PM
In article <RoydnfjQfvhpcCPanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-B4F265.08151422022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> > In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> > "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are we
> >> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> >> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >> stopped
> >> it?
> >
> > That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> > Sheppard stop it?
>
> Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member of
> his?

But he "fights" with him all the time himself!

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

Anim8rFSK
02-22-2008, 04:30 PM
In article <drache-FF2F28.14051022022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <RoydnfjQfvhpcCPanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>,
> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>
> > "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:ANIM8Rfsk-B4F265.08151422022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> > > In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> > > "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Are we
> > >> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> > >> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> > >> stopped
> > >> it?
> > >
> > > That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> > > Sheppard stop it?
> >
> > Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member of
> > his?
>
> But he "fights" with him all the time himself!

great minds :)

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Martin
02-22-2008, 07:34 PM
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
news:8lttr3l04f94uigqpfse3t2teud0fnos09@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are we
>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>>>> stopped
>>>> it?
>>>
>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
>>> Sheppard stop it?
>>
>>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member
>>of
>>his?
>>
> And... ?
>
> He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
> services have boxing teams for God's sakes.

They were not boxing, there was no referee and someone could have gotten
badly injured. It was a **** part of the plot and unrealistic.

David V. Loewe, Jr
02-22-2008, 09:17 PM
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:34:11 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
wrote:

>"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are we really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would
>>>>> have simply stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard
>>>>> wouldn't have stopped it?
>>>>
>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell
>>>> would Sheppard stop it?
>>>
>>>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team
>>>member of his?
>>>
>> And... ?
>>
>> He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
>> services have boxing teams for God's sakes.
>
>They were not boxing,

There are also competitions in other martial arts - including fighting
with sticks (as they were doing).

>there was no referee

Sheppard would have stopped it before that.

>and someone could have gotten badly injured.

Yep. And it could happen in any other martial arts contest (as
happens in real life - boxers have died in the highly regulated ring).

>It was a **** part of the plot and unrealistic.

And I say it was not.
--
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what
they conceal is vital."
- Aaron Levenstein

Anim8rFSK
02-22-2008, 10:18 PM
In article <ZdadnUpSYZKf9yLaRVnyhAA@bt.com>,
"Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:

> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:8lttr3l04f94uigqpfse3t2teud0fnos09@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Are we
> >>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> >>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >>>> stopped
> >>>> it?
> >>>
> >>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> >>> Sheppard stop it?
> >>
> >>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member
> >>of
> >>his?
> >>
> > And... ?
> >
> > He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
> > services have boxing teams for God's sakes.
>
> They were not boxing, there was no referee and someone could have gotten
> badly injured. It was a **** part of the plot and unrealistic.

Nobody said it was boxing. There's no referee in sparring. Somebody
could get badly injured anytime they spar with Ronon -- and they do. It
was the most believable part of the episode.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Pete B
02-22-2008, 10:29 PM
In article <drache-D4BC9F.14043322022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
drache@chibardun.net.invalid says...
> In article
> <ANIM8Rfsk-B4F265.08151422022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> > "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Are we
> > > really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> > > stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> > > stopped
> > > it?
> >
> > That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> > Sheppard stop it?
>
> aaaaaaahhhhhh training session ? 8-) And I agree; people betting on
> it struck me as quite believable.

You come from a rough neighborhood don't you *g*

Michael Bowker
02-22-2008, 11:23 PM
Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Are we
>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have stopped
>> it?
>
> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> Sheppard stop it?
>
I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after she
did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.

puzzlrr
02-23-2008, 01:37 AM
"Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote in message
news:RoydnfjQfvhpcCPanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-B4F265.08151422022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are we
>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>>> stopped
>>> it?
>>
>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
>> Sheppard stop it?
>
> Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member
> of his?
>

I think the fanboys have been wondering who would win in a fight between the
two, probably since Ronon joined the team. Everyone got what they wanted,
imo. A nice fight ~ fanboys. No clear winner ~ producers/actors. It even
had something for the ladies.

Puzz

Martin
02-23-2008, 07:08 AM
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
news:340vr31rl8j5ktg63nbu8j8v8mtdtu3ac8@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:34:11 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would
>>>>>> have simply stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard
>>>>>> wouldn't have stopped it?
>>>>>
>>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell
>>>>> would Sheppard stop it?
>>>>
>>>>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team
>>>>member of his?
>>>>
>>> And... ?
>>>
>>> He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
>>> services have boxing teams for God's sakes.
>>
>>They were not boxing,
>
> There are also competitions in other martial arts - including fighting
> with sticks (as they were doing).
>
>>there was no referee
>
> Sheppard would have stopped it before that.
>
>>and someone could have gotten badly injured.
>
> Yep. And it could happen in any other martial arts contest (as
> happens in real life - boxers have died in the highly regulated ring).
>
>>It was a **** part of the plot and unrealistic.
>
> And I say it was not.

Ok. It was brilliant. Fantastic. Best episode EVER.

Anim8rFSK
02-23-2008, 08:54 AM
In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> > "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are we
> >> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> >> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >> stopped
> >> it?
> >
> > That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> > Sheppard stop it?
> >
> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after she
> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.

Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Anim8rFSK
02-23-2008, 08:54 AM
In article <_N2dnfd7v5JOkV3anZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:

> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:340vr31rl8j5ktg63nbu8j8v8mtdtu3ac8@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:34:11 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Are we really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would
> >>>>>> have simply stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard
> >>>>>> wouldn't have stopped it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell
> >>>>> would Sheppard stop it?
> >>>>
> >>>>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team
> >>>>member of his?
> >>>>
> >>> And... ?
> >>>
> >>> He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
> >>> services have boxing teams for God's sakes.
> >>
> >>They were not boxing,
> >
> > There are also competitions in other martial arts - including fighting
> > with sticks (as they were doing).
> >
> >>there was no referee
> >
> > Sheppard would have stopped it before that.
> >
> >>and someone could have gotten badly injured.
> >
> > Yep. And it could happen in any other martial arts contest (as
> > happens in real life - boxers have died in the highly regulated ring).
> >
> >>It was a **** part of the plot and unrealistic.
> >
> > And I say it was not.
>
> Ok. It was brilliant. Fantastic. Best episode EVER.

There ya go!

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

erilar
02-23-2008, 09:20 AM
In article <MPG.2229b1732e97efc998bb1c@news.usenetserver.com>,
Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:

> In article <drache-D4BC9F.14043322022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
> drache@chibardun.net.invalid says...
> > In article
> > <ANIM8Rfsk-B4F265.08151422022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
> > Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> > > "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are we
> > > > really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> > > > stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> > > > stopped
> > > > it?
> > >
> > > That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> > > Sheppard stop it?
> >
> > aaaaaaahhhhhh training session ? 8-) And I agree; people betting on
> > it struck me as quite believable.
>
> You come from a rough neighborhood don't you *g*

Actually, the opposite extreme 8-) But Sheppard and Ronan don't seem to
pull punches when they train.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

Michael Bowker
02-23-2008, 01:29 PM
Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are we
>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>>>> stopped
>>>> it?
>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
>>> Sheppard stop it?
>>>
>> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after she
>> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.
>
> Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.
>
I can't disagree. I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
Weir as well?

Dillon Pyron
02-23-2008, 01:29 PM
[Default] Thus spake Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>:

>In article <ZdadnUpSYZKf9yLaRVnyhAA@bt.com>,
> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>
>> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:8lttr3l04f94uigqpfse3t2teud0fnos09@4ax.com...
>> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Are we
>> >>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
>> >>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>> >>>> stopped
>> >>>> it?
>> >>>
>> >>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
>> >>> Sheppard stop it?
>> >>
>> >>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member
>> >>of
>> >>his?
>> >>
>> > And... ?
>> >
>> > He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
>> > services have boxing teams for God's sakes.
>>
>> They were not boxing, there was no referee and someone could have gotten
>> badly injured. It was a **** part of the plot and unrealistic.
>
>Nobody said it was boxing. There's no referee in sparring. Somebody
>could get badly injured anytime they spar with Ronon -- and they do. It
>was the most believable part of the episode.

Okay, it seems to be a combo Air Force - Marine mission, but that kind
of "nearly beating the **** out of each other" is a Navy tradition.
And yes, there is usually an officer (sometimes the XO) standing by to
stop it when it gets to that point. A split lip and a bloddy nose
didn't look like anybody was really getting beat badly. Those two are
what I'd call Master Fighters.

erilar
02-23-2008, 01:55 PM
In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
> Weir as well?

Well, that would be a step UP for him.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

Pete B
02-23-2008, 02:32 PM
In article <cbp0s315quqinj8f4k20gsgl6t9oinb7af@4ax.com>,
invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com says...
> [Default] Thus spake Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>:
>
> >In article <ZdadnUpSYZKf9yLaRVnyhAA@bt.com>,
> > "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> news:8lttr3l04f94uigqpfse3t2teud0fnos09@4ax.com...
> >> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Are we
> >> >>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> >> >>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >> >>>> stopped
> >> >>>> it?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> >> >>> Sheppard stop it?
> >> >>
> >> >>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member
> >> >>of
> >> >>his?
> >> >>
> >> > And... ?
> >> >
> >> > He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
> >> > services have boxing teams for God's sakes.
> >>
> >> They were not boxing, there was no referee and someone could have gotten
> >> badly injured. It was a **** part of the plot and unrealistic.
> >
> >Nobody said it was boxing. There's no referee in sparring. Somebody
> >could get badly injured anytime they spar with Ronon -- and they do. It
> >was the most believable part of the episode.
>
> Okay, it seems to be a combo Air Force - Marine mission, but that kind
> of "nearly beating the **** out of each other" is a Navy tradition.

Yeah, but they are primitives ;)

Anim8rFSK
02-23-2008, 02:35 PM
In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> >>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Are we
> >>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
> >>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >>>> stopped
> >>>> it?
> >>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> >>> Sheppard stop it?
> >>>
> >> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after she
> >> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.
> >
> > Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.
> >
> I can't disagree. I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
> Weir as well?

AAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Michael Bowker
02-23-2008, 03:11 PM
erilar wrote:
> In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
>> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
>> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
>> Weir as well?
>
> Well, that would be a step UP for him.
>
Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
sort of way).

Michael Bowker
02-23-2008, 03:12 PM
Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
>>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
>>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we
>>>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have simply
>>>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>> it?
>>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
>>>>> Sheppard stop it?
>>>>>
>>>> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after she
>>>> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.
>>> Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.
>>>
>> I can't disagree. I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
>> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
>> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
>> Weir as well?
>
> AAAA
> AAAAAAAAAAAA
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>

Did follow the math all the way to the end, I take it?

Anim8rFSK
02-23-2008, 04:26 PM
In article <13s0vhbh86vvn39@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>> In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
> >>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>>>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> >>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Are we
> >>>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have
> >>>>>> simply
> >>>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >>>>>> stopped
> >>>>>> it?
> >>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> >>>>> Sheppard stop it?
> >>>>>
> >>>> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after she
> >>>> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.
> >>> Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.
> >>>
> >> I can't disagree. I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> >> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> >> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
> >> Weir as well?
> >
> > AAAA
> > AAAAAAAAAAAA
> > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> >
>
> Did follow the math all the way to the end, I take it?

No, I was picturing Robert Picardo's face on Torri's breasts.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

erilar
02-23-2008, 05:28 PM
In article <13s0vfbldoer2fa@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> erilar wrote:
> > In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> >> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> >> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
> >> Weir as well?
> >
> > Well, that would be a step UP for him.
> >
> Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
> sort of way).

I never have. I wasn't all that crazy about Picardo, either, though.
Maybe I subconsciously dislike the actor?

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

Anim8rFSK
02-23-2008, 06:17 PM
In article <drache-C27BD0.16285723022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <13s0vfbldoer2fa@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
> > erilar wrote:
> > > In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> > > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> > >> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> > >> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
> > >> Weir as well?
> > >
> > > Well, that would be a step UP for him.
> > >
> > Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
> > sort of way).
>
> I never have. I wasn't all that crazy about Picardo, either, though.
> Maybe I subconsciously dislike the actor?

What did you think of Johnny Cab?

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Martin
02-23-2008, 08:19 PM
"erilar" <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:drache-C27BD0.16285723022008@news.airstreamcomm.net...
> In article <13s0vfbldoer2fa@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>> erilar wrote:
>> > In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
>> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
>> >> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
>> >> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey
>> >> as
>> >> Weir as well?
>> >
>> > Well, that would be a step UP for him.
>> >
>> Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
>> sort of way).
>
> I never have. I wasn't all that crazy about Picardo, either, though.
> Maybe I subconsciously dislike the actor?
>
> --
> Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
>
> You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
> that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov
>
> Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo

They would have been better off writing [Mitch Pileggi] as Cauldwell into
the role instead (especially as he was the one originally slated in the
storyline to take over)

Michael Bowker
02-23-2008, 08:43 PM
Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <13s0vhbh86vvn39@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
>>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>>> In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
>>>>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
>>>>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are we
>>>>>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have
>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>>>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
>>>>>>> Sheppard stop it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after she
>>>>>> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.
>>>>> Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.
>>>>>
>>>> I can't disagree. I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
>>>> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
>>>> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
>>>> Weir as well?
>>> AAAA
>>> AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>>
>> Did follow the math all the way to the end, I take it?
>
> No, I was picturing Robert Picardo's face on Torri's breasts.
>
Ok sorry I ask. Now I'm going to have nightmares.

Anim8rFSK
02-23-2008, 09:02 PM
In article <13s1iso8pl40qff@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <13s0vhbh86vvn39@corp.supernews.com>,
> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>> In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> >>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>>>> In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
> >>>>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> >>>>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Are we
> >>>>>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have
> >>>>>>>> simply
> >>>>>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> >>>>>>>> stopped
> >>>>>>>> it?
> >>>>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> >>>>>>> Sheppard stop it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after
> >>>>>> she
> >>>>>> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.
> >>>>> Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I can't disagree. I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> >>>> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> >>>> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
> >>>> Weir as well?
> >>> AAAA
> >>> AAAAAAAAAAAA
> >>> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> >>>
> >> Did follow the math all the way to the end, I take it?
> >
> > No, I was picturing Robert Picardo's face on Torri's breasts.
> >
> Ok sorry I ask. Now I'm going to have nightmares.

bwahahahahahaha

let's hope I don't get so bored tomorrow I open photoshop . . .

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

Pete B
02-23-2008, 11:16 PM
In article <drache-C27BD0.16285723022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
drache@chibardun.net.invalid says...


> > Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
> > sort of way).
>
> I never have. I wasn't all that crazy about Picardo, either, though.
> Maybe I subconsciously dislike the actor?

Perhaps he reminds you of an evil uncle? :)

David B
02-24-2008, 02:27 AM
Anim8rFSK wrote:

> In article <13s0vhbh86vvn39@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
> > Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > > In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> > > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > >>> In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
> > >>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > >>>>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> > >>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Are we
> > >>>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have
> > >>>>>> simply
> > >>>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
> > >>>>>> stopped
> > >>>>>> it?
> > >>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
> > >>>>> Sheppard stop it?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after she
> > >>>> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.
> > >>> Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.
> > >>>
> > >> I can't disagree. I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> > >> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> > >> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as
> > >> Weir as well?
> > >
> > > AAAA
> > > AAAAAAAAAAAA
> > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> > >
> >
> > Did follow the math all the way to the end, I take it?
>
> No, I was picturing Robert Picardo's face on Torri's breasts.

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Anim8rFSK
02-24-2008, 04:30 AM
In article <47C11C63.38980C10@hotmail.com>,
David B <bothecat3@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>
> > In article <13s0vhbh86vvn39@corp.supernews.com>,
> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > > > In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> > > > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > > >>> In article <13rv7t1cr6qbv82@corp.supernews.com>,
> > > >>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > > >>>>> In article <M8KdnTw2WvuKjyPanZ2dnUVZ8selnZ2d@bt.com>,
> > > >>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Are we
> > > >>>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have
> > > >>>>>> simply
> > > >>>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't
> > > >>>>>> have
> > > >>>>>> stopped
> > > >>>>>> it?
> > > >>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell
> > > >>>>> would
> > > >>>>> Sheppard stop it?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> I was really disappointed that Carter stopped it. ...and then after
> > > >>>> she
> > > >>>> did, I was surprised Teal'C didn't make a snarky comment.
> > > >>> Yes to both. Again, they're writing Carter as Weir.
> > > >>>
> > > >> I can't disagree. I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> > > >> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> > > >> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey
> > > >> as
> > > >> Weir as well?
> > > >
> > > > AAAA
> > > > AAAAAAAAAAAA
> > > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> > > >
> > >
> > > Did follow the math all the way to the end, I take it?
> >
> > No, I was picturing Robert Picardo's face on Torri's breasts.
>
> EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Good point.

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

erilar
02-24-2008, 10:34 AM
In article
<ANIM8Rfsk-E41854.16170823022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <drache-C27BD0.16285723022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <13s0vfbldoer2fa@corp.supernews.com>,
> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> > > erilar wrote:
> > > > In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> > > > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> > > >> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> > > >> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey
> > > >> as
> > > >> Weir as well?
> > > >
> > > > Well, that would be a step UP for him.
> > > >
> > > Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
> > > sort of way).
> >
> > I never have. I wasn't all that crazy about Picardo, either, though.
> > Maybe I subconsciously dislike the actor?
>
> What did you think of Johnny Cab?

Who? A character in something I didn't watch, I take it.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

Anim8rFSK
02-24-2008, 01:37 PM
In article <drache-1A4FB3.09343424022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article
> <ANIM8Rfsk-E41854.16170823022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <drache-C27BD0.16285723022008@news.airstreamcomm.net>,
> > erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <13s0vfbldoer2fa@corp.supernews.com>,
> > > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > erilar wrote:
> > > > > In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
> > > > > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to
> > > > >> something else, the internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and
> > > > >> hearing Weir is becoming tiresome. I wonder if they'll write
> > > > >> Woolsey
> > > > >> as
> > > > >> Weir as well?
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, that would be a step UP for him.
> > > > >
> > > > Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
> > > > sort of way).
> > >
> > > I never have. I wasn't all that crazy about Picardo, either, though.
> > > Maybe I subconsciously dislike the actor?
> >
> > What did you think of Johnny Cab?
>
> Who? A character in something I didn't watch, I take it.

Obviously you don't have Total Recall.

http://kybele.psych.cornell.edu/~edelman/Cog-531-Spring-2003/Dick-cab.jpg

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/9669/emh4cd.jpg

--
Star Trek 09:

No Shat, No Show.

erilar
02-24-2008, 03:32 PM
In article
<ANIM8Rfsk-25ABE0.11372124022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:


> Obviously you don't have Total Recall.

I said I didn't have an eidetic memory some time ago. . . . 8-g
(tongue in cheek smiley)

No, I don't watch movies over and over and it's a long time since I saw
that movie.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 

puzzlrr
02-25-2008, 05:12 AM
"Michael Bowker" <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote in message
news:13s0vfbldoer2fa@corp.supernews.com...
> erilar wrote:
>> In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to something else, the
>>> internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and hearing Weir is becoming
>>> tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as Weir as well?
>>
>> Well, that would be a step UP for him.
>>
> Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
> sort of way).

I agree. And it will be a welcome dynamic to have a member of the
expedition who the others either don't like or don't trust.

Puzz

Alan Pollock
02-25-2008, 04:58 PM
In rec.arts.tv Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <13s0vhbh86vvn39@corp.supernews.com>,
> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > No, I was picturing Robert Picardo's face on Torri's breasts.
> >
> Ok sorry I ask. Now I'm going to have nightmares.


With this latest ep, SGA in my view has officially become a jumbled mess.

Find it difficult to finish watching an ep now; a fly buzzing on the window is
far more intriguing. A wafting mote of dust? Fascinating in contrast. Sound of
a distant car forlornly honking presents more imaginative potential than the
overworked, grindingly contrived and sadly pedestrian efforts of the SGA
writing team.

Got rid of Weir, mistake. Got blondie soccer mom on: mistake. Merged with the
old stargate: mistake. Lost that old special SGA aura of mystery, camaraderie
and just plain fun: mistake.

On top of that an ep or two ago we got a character from the old sg sporting
such a ridiculous accent, the ep cheapened by half in an instant. (No big, but
in light of everything else yes, big) And he can't act (don't even remember
the name). The old rowdy 'who cares if they can't act' spirit's gone so he
stood out like a sore thumb. All face and no cheek.

It's mistake after blunder after gaffe.

Sure they've got lots of fans - I was one of them - and torrents blaze when an
ep comes out (as an indicator), but for how long? Even die-hards eventually
yawn; numbers will go down enough to matter at this rate of ineptitude.

New shows will emerge and SGA's momentum will flag. It's a shame. Nex

bc_gisele
02-27-2008, 05:29 PM
Alan Pollock <nex@nopanix.com> wrote in
news:fpvdm0$cob$1@reader2.panix.com:

> In rec.arts.tv Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> > In article <13s0vhbh86vvn39@corp.supernews.com>,
>> > Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > No, I was picturing Robert Picardo's face on Torri's
breasts.
>> >
>> Ok sorry I ask. Now I'm going to have nightmares.
>
>
> With this latest ep, SGA in my view has officially become a
jumbled
> mess.
>
> Find it difficult to finish watching an ep now; a fly buzzing
on the
> window is far more intriguing. A wafting mote of dust?
Fascinating in
> contrast. Sound of a distant car forlornly honking presents
more
> imaginative potential than the overworked, grindingly contrived
and
> sadly pedestrian efforts of the SGA writing team.
>
> Got rid of Weir, mistake. Got blondie soccer mom on: mistake.
Merged
> with the old stargate: mistake. Lost that old special SGA aura
of
> mystery, camaraderie and just plain fun: mistake.
>
> On top of that an ep or two ago we got a character from the old
sg
> sporting such a ridiculous accent, the ep cheapened by half in
an
> instant. (No big, but in light of everything else yes, big) And
he
> can't act (don't even remember the name). The old rowdy 'who
cares if
> they can't act' spirit's gone so he stood out like a sore
thumb. All
> face and no cheek.
>
> It's mistake after blunder after gaffe.
>
> Sure they've got lots of fans - I was one of them - and
torrents blaze
> when an ep comes out (as an indicator), but for how long? Even
> die-hards eventually yawn; numbers will go down enough to
matter at
> this rate of ineptitude.
>
> New shows will emerge and SGA's momentum will flag. It's a
shame. Nex

Yep, well said, and this was one of my favorite shows. Oh
well... I'll still watch though. I love Rodney and Sheppard
still.

Gisele

Rick
02-29-2008, 01:09 AM
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
news:2l8rr3ddijb3c0f3fdjv3rcobgrdnghpuc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:24:20 -0800, Tim Bruening
> <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>
>>George Avalos wrote:
>>
>>> "Midway"
>>> 2-15-08 SGA
>>>
>>> 5 stars (Fletcher)
>>>
>>> 0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>>
>>Who are those guys?
>
> There is this thing called Wikipedia. If you don't like that, there's
> this thing called Google.
>
> Frank Jack Fletcher was the senior US Navy officer present at the
> Battle Of Midway. Admiral Fletcher commanded Task Force 17
> (Yorktown). Additionally, Raymond Spruance is given a lot of credit
> for the outcome. Admiral Spruance commanded Task Force 16 (Enterprise
> and Hornet) at Midway because Admiral Halsey, the normal TF-16
> commander, was ill and in the hospital.
>
> Nagumo Chuichi was the commander of Kido Butai (the Japanese Carrier
> Strike Force) at Pearl Harbor and at Midway.
>
> Fletcher and Spruance kicked Nagumo's butt at Midway - losing
> Yorktown, but sinking all four Japanese carriers (Akagi, Kaga, Soryu
> and Hiryu) present at the battle.
> --
> "I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I
> want to be controlling it."
> - Clint Eastwood in "Pink Cadillac"

Since Hollywood loves making remakes I'd love to see a Midway done in CGI.

Rick
02-29-2008, 01:10 AM
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-3E3476.07153021022008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> I'm already on record as giving it a
>
> 4
>
> despite that it doesn't hold up to scrutiny at all. At least it was fun.
>
How so?

Rick
02-29-2008, 01:13 AM
"David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
news:i8grr3tj37schtcj7rv59l5frc9msepf1j@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:02:08 -0800, "George Avalos"
> <georgeavalos0@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>"Midway"
>>2-15-08 SGA
>>
>>5 stars (Fletcher)
>>
>>0-1 stars (Nagumo)
>
> You're not leaving us much room here. Basically, everyone at Midway
> performed either fantastically or horribly.
>
> I'm going to give it a 4.25 (C. Wade McClusky), mostly deducting for
> being predictable. It was still fun.
> --
> "Trust me... I know what I'm doing."
> - Sledge Hammer

For some reason when ever Midway with Charlton Hesston is on I can never
turn it off.

Rick
02-29-2008, 01:16 AM
"Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote in message
news:ZdadnUpSYZKf9yLaRVnyhAA@bt.com...
>
> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:8lttr3l04f94uigqpfse3t2teud0fnos09@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:44:53 -0000, "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> "Martin" <nonhere@nonhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are we
>>>>> really supposed to believe that the Atlantis workfoce would have
>>>>> simply
>>>>> stood around betting on a violent fight? That Sheppard wouldn't have
>>>>> stopped
>>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> That was the most believable part of the episode. Why the hell would
>>>> Sheppard stop it?
>>>
>>>Because he is an Officer and one of the people fighting is a team member
>>>of
>>>his?
>>>
>> And... ?
>>
>> He'd have stopped it if it was clear someone would get hurt. The
>> services have boxing teams for God's sakes.
>
> They were not boxing, there was no referee and someone could have gotten
> badly injured. It was a **** part of the plot and unrealistic.
Didn't that old show Black sheep Squadron do an episode with bare knuckle
fighting? I mean all those show were true weren't they?

Rick
02-29-2008, 12:24 PM
"Michael Bowker" <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote in message
news:13s0vfbldoer2fa@corp.supernews.com...
> erilar wrote:
>> In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to something else, the
>>> internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and hearing Weir is becoming
>>> tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as Weir as well?
>>
>> Well, that would be a step UP for him.
>>
> Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
> sort of way).

Where did you read that Tapping is leaving?

Leigh Claffey
02-29-2008, 12:43 PM
Rick wrote:
> "Michael Bowker" <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote in message
> news:13s0vfbldoer2fa@corp.supernews.com...
>> erilar wrote:
>>> In article <13s0pf5ivvl0bce@corp.supernews.com>,
>>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm almost glad that Tapping is moving on to something else, the
>>>> internal mental disconnect of seeing Carter and hearing Weir is becoming
>>>> tiresome. I wonder if they'll write Woolsey as Weir as well?
>>> Well, that would be a step UP for him.
>>>
>> Ouch that's cold. :) I like Woolsey, he's a good guy (in a pompous ***
>> sort of way).
>
> Where did you read that Tapping is leaving?
>
>
Original Announcement about Sanctuary
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/01/sci_fi_picks_up_tappings_isanctu.shtml

Part One of an interview with Amanda Tapping
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/02/tapping_talks_isanctuaryi_iatlan.shtml
Part Two
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/02/more_from_tapping_on_iatlantisi_.shtml

Short blurb (with spoilers) about Season 5 and Picardo's appearances
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/02/picardo_in_14_episodes_of_season.shtml

--Leigh