Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail i
missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers. In
the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one they
use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at sea.
i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a spacecraft
launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
irradiated.

In article <7868-47C5A380-29@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>,
BillV2320@webtv.net (The Eclectician) wrote:

> Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail i
> missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers. In
> the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one they
> use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at sea.
> i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
> unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a spacecraft
> launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
> irradiated.

They didn't "stand so close to the backwash". The original Vipers were
launched only when the hangar crew had moved to protective areas. That
was part of the "clear for launch" / "launch when ready" radio
procedure.

Of course, in real space both systems are irrelevant - you would only
need a relatively gentle push to launch the Viper and then use the
engines once outside, but that doesn't look as good on-screen.

Anybody wrote:
>
> In article <7868-47C5A380-29@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>,
> BillV2320@webtv.net (The Eclectician) wrote:
>
> > Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail i
> > missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers. In
> > the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one they
> > use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at sea.
> > i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
> > unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a spacecraft
> > launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
> > irradiated.
>
> They didn't "stand so close to the backwash". The original Vipers were
> launched only when the hangar crew had moved to protective areas. That
> was part of the "clear for launch" / "launch when ready" radio
> procedure.
>
> Of course, in real space both systems are irrelevant - you would only
> need a relatively gentle push to launch the Viper and then use the
> engines once outside, but that doesn't look as good on-screen.

"gentle" push? No, this is a combat situation - you'd want going as fast as possible
as
soon as possible.

RT wrote:

>> Of course, in real space both systems are irrelevant - you would only
>> need a relatively gentle push to launch the Viper and then use the
>> engines once outside, but that doesn't look as good on-screen.
>
> "gentle" push? No, this is a combat situation - you'd want going as fast as possible
> as
> soon as possible.
..
..
Not to mention you have to get enough inertia to counter the
artificial gravity of the ship. Unless shutting of gravity to those
areas is part of the launch procedure...

In article <47c6cb9a$0$22831$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Ryan P."
<rpaque@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote:

> RT wrote:
>
> >> Of course, in real space both systems are irrelevant - you would only
> >> need a relatively gentle push to launch the Viper and then use the
> >> engines once outside, but that doesn't look as good on-screen.
> >
> > "gentle" push? No, this is a combat situation - you'd want going as fast
> > as possible as soon as possible.
>
> Not to mention you have to get enough inertia to counter the
> artificial gravity of the ship. Unless shutting of gravity to those
> areas is part of the launch procedure...

You guys missed an important word: "Relatively". I never said you
simply let the Viper drift out after being tapped by a baby. :-\

"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:280220080906491849%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <7868-47C5A380-29@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>,
> BillV2320@webtv.net (The Eclectician) wrote:
>
>> Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail i
>> missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers. In
>> the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one they
>> use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at sea.
>> i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
>> unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a spacecraft
>> launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
>> irradiated.
>
> They didn't "stand so close to the backwash". The original Vipers were
> launched only when the hangar crew had moved to protective areas. That
> was part of the "clear for launch" / "launch when ready" radio
> procedure.

Yeah, but not everyone were quick enough to get out of the way, once in a
while there was an accident.

What do you think happened to Boxie?

Mark

Anybody wrote:
> In article <47c6cb9a$0$22831$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Ryan P."
> <rpaque@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote:

>>>> Of course, in real space both systems are irrelevant - you would only
>>>> need a relatively gentle push to launch the Viper and then use the
>>>> engines once outside, but that doesn't look as good on-screen.

{SNIP}

> You guys missed an important word: "Relatively". I never said you
> simply let the Viper drift out after being tapped by a baby. :-\
..
..

Now that I think about it though, Galactica would be exerting its own
natural gravity on the viper... which means you're absolutely correct...
a child might not be able to counter the attraction of the smaller
object to the larger object.

It's kind've a funny image in my mind though... rows of feisty babies
ready to bat at a viper!

In article <47c730d5$0$24079$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Mark R Rose"
<mrosendorf@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:280220080906491849%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> > In article <7868-47C5A380-29@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>,
> > BillV2320@webtv.net (The Eclectician) wrote:
> >
> >> Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail i
> >> missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers. In
> >> the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one they
> >> use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at sea.
> >> i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
> >> unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a spacecraft
> >> launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
> >> irradiated.
> >
> > They didn't "stand so close to the backwash". The original Vipers were
> > launched only when the hangar crew had moved to protective areas. That
> > was part of the "clear for launch" / "launch when ready" radio
> > procedure.
>
> Yeah, but not everyone were quick enough to get out of the way, once in a
> while there was an accident.

No doubt there were accidents, just like there are accidents on
aircraft carriers today.



> What do you think happened to Boxie?

Boxie changed his name (I don't rember them ever saying why) to Troy
and went on to be the star of the garbage sequel series. :-(

In article <47c731fa$0$24112$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Ryan P."
<rpaque@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote:

> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <47c6cb9a$0$22831$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Ryan P."
> > <rpaque@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Of course, in real space both systems are irrelevant - you would only
> >>>> need a relatively gentle push to launch the Viper and then use the
> >>>> engines once outside, but that doesn't look as good on-screen.
>
> {SNIP}
>
> > You guys missed an important word: "Relatively". I never said you
> > simply let the Viper drift out after being tapped by a baby. :-\
> .
> .
>
> Now that I think about it though, Galactica would be exerting its own
> natural gravity on the viper... which means you're absolutely correct...
> a child might not be able to counter the attraction of the smaller
> object to the larger object.
>
> It's kind've a funny image in my mind though... rows of feisty babies
> ready to bat at a viper!

Maybe they do that in the RugRats or Muppet Babies parody show of
Battlestar Galactica. ;-)

"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:290220081245597381%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <47c730d5$0$24079$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Mark R Rose"
> <mrosendorf@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > news:280220080906491849%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> > > In article <7868-47C5A380-29@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>,
> > > BillV2320@webtv.net (The Eclectician) wrote:
> > >
> > >> Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail
i
> > >> missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers.
In
> > >> the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one
they
> > >> use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at
sea.
> > >> i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
> > >> unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a
spacecraft
> > >> launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
> > >> irradiated.
> > >
> > > They didn't "stand so close to the backwash". The original Vipers were
> > > launched only when the hangar crew had moved to protective areas. That
> > > was part of the "clear for launch" / "launch when ready" radio
> > > procedure.
> >
> > Yeah, but not everyone were quick enough to get out of the way, once in
a
> > while there was an accident.
>
> No doubt there were accidents, just like there are accidents on
> aircraft carriers today.
>
>
>
> > What do you think happened to Boxie?
>
> Boxie changed his name (I don't rember them ever saying why) to Troy
> and went on to be the star of the garbage sequel series. :-(

Actually, that wasn't a name change. It was nickname vs. given name.

In article <fq80o0$jen$1@snarked.org>, "D. Stussy"
<spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:

> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:290220081245597381%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> > In article <47c730d5$0$24079$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Mark R Rose"
> > <mrosendorf@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > > news:280220080906491849%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> > > > In article <7868-47C5A380-29@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>,
> > > > BillV2320@webtv.net (The Eclectician) wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail
> i
> > > >> missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers.
> In
> > > >> the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one
> they
> > > >> use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at
> sea.
> > > >> i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
> > > >> unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a
> spacecraft
> > > >> launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
> > > >> irradiated.
> > > >
> > > > They didn't "stand so close to the backwash". The original Vipers were
> > > > launched only when the hangar crew had moved to protective areas. That
> > > > was part of the "clear for launch" / "launch when ready" radio
> > > > procedure.
> > >
> > > Yeah, but not everyone were quick enough to get out of the way, once in
> > > a while there was an accident.
> >
> > No doubt there were accidents, just like there are accidents on
> > aircraft carriers today.
> >
> > > What do you think happened to Boxie?
> >
> > Boxie changed his name (I don't rember them ever saying why) to Troy
> > and went on to be the star of the garbage sequel series. :-(
>
> Actually, that wasn't a name change. It was nickname vs. given name.

True, but since "Troy" was never / rarely used (as far as I remember)
on the original show, it seems like a name change. :-)

Plus of course it is spelt "Boxey".

Eclectician) wrote:
Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail i
missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers. In
the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one they
use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at sea.
i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a spacecraft
launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
irradiated."

[They didn't "stand so close to the backwash". The original Vipers were
launched only when the hangar crew had moved to protective areas. That
was part of the "clear for launch" / "launch when ready" radio
procedure.
Of course, in real space both systems are irrelevant - you would only
need a relatively gentle push to launch the Viper and then use the
engines once outside, but that doesn't look as good on-screen.]

I remember them launching spacecraft with unprotected people standing
right next to it or actually behing it. Even if it was a conventional
chemical rocket, they woulds have gotten burned at the VERY least.

In article <1332-47C7C50B-287@storefull-3214.bay.webtv.net>,
BillV2320@webtv.net (The Eclectician) wrote:
>
> I remember them launching spacecraft with unprotected people standing
> right next to it or actually behing it. Even if it was a conventional
> chemical rocket, they woulds have gotten burned at the VERY least.

Not every single second is shown on a TV show. Although you didn't see
it, common sense would mean you can realise that the people would have
moved to safety before the launch - it would be standard launch
procedure.

"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:010320081640407776%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
>>
>> I remember them launching spacecraft with unprotected people standing
>> right next to it or actually behing it. Even if it was a conventional
>> chemical rocket, they woulds have gotten burned at the VERY least.
>
> Not every single second is shown on a TV show. Although you didn't see
> it

This is true. The classic example of this is the way that Galactica:1980
edits out most of the minutes that don't suck. ;-)
--

Mark R Rose wrote:
>
> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > In article <7868-47C5A380-29@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>,
> > BillV2320@webtv.net (The Eclectician) wrote:
> >
> >> Since i have rewatched the new series, i picked up on a lot of detail i
> >> missed the first time around. for instance: when they launch vipers. In
> >> the classic they fire their turbos immediately, but in the new one they
> >> use a catapult system much like a conventional aircraft carrier at sea.
> >> i see the 'reality' of the latter approach, as i always wondered how
> >> unprotected people could stand so close in the backwash of a spacecraft
> >> launching at full thrust and not get incinerated or at least fatally
> >> irradiated.
> >
> > They didn't "stand so close to the backwash". The original Vipers were
> > launched only when the hangar crew had moved to protective areas. That
> > was part of the "clear for launch" / "launch when ready" radio
> > procedure.
>
> Yeah, but not everyone were quick enough to get out of the way, once in a
> while there was an accident.

The launch tubes are opened to the vacuum of space - hence, they are in
airlock so pilots and ground crew can access the Viper. The only way someone
would be in th way is if they were in the airlock/launch tube.

> What do you think happened to Boxie?
>
> Mark

"Ryan P." wrote:
>
> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <47c6cb9a$0$22831$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Ryan P."
> > <rpaque@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>> Of course, in real space both systems are irrelevant - you would only
> >>>> need a relatively gentle push to launch the Viper and then use the
> >>>> engines once outside, but that doesn't look as good on-screen.
>
> {SNIP}
>
> > You guys missed an important word: "Relatively". I never said you

The word was not missed, you said "gentle". This is insufficient.

> > simply let the Viper drift out after being tapped by a baby. :-\
>
> Now that I think about it though, Galactica would be exerting its own
> natural gravity on the viper... which means you're absolutely correct...

Not enough. That's why they have artificial gravity.

> a child might not be able to counter the attraction of the smaller
> object to the larger object.
>
> It's kind've a funny image in my mind though... rows of feisty babies
> ready to bat at a viper!