View Full Version : Simon Pegg Discusses Sequels to Trek XI


Steven L.
03-14-2008, 12:57 AM
Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
upcoming Trek XI:

"I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but otherwise
I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about the production.

Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious science-fiction
movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey take on the original
series. It's a faithful and loving instalment in the ongoing mythology
of the show".

Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring the
new cast.

"I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If the
worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years and
have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great argument".

http://tinyurl.com/yrj2v7

[
Sounds like unless Trek XI is a total bomb, there will be a Trek XII
movie around December 2012, and a Trek XIII movie around December 2015.
]



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\(not quite so\) Fat Sam
03-14-2008, 08:45 PM
Steven L. wrote:
> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
> upcoming Trek XI:
>
> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
> the production.
> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious science-fiction
> movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey take on the original
> series. It's a faithful and loving instalment in the ongoing mythology
> of the show".
>
> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring the
> new cast.
>
> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years
> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
> argument".

Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find himself
comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy train for life.
There will always be Star Trek conventions for him to attend and get paid
handsomely for doing so.
I'd say that's an even better argument.

Steven L.
03-15-2008, 12:24 PM
(not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> Steven L. wrote:
>> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
>> upcoming Trek XI:
>>
>> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
>> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
>> the production.
>> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious science-fiction
>> movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey take on the original
>> series. It's a faithful and loving instalment in the ongoing mythology
>> of the show".
>>
>> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring the
>> new cast.
>>
>> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
>> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
>> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years
>> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
>> argument".
>
> Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find himself
> comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy train for life.
> There will always be Star Trek conventions for him to attend and get paid
> handsomely for doing so.
> I'd say that's an even better argument.

Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole years.
James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.

Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.


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Warchild
03-15-2008, 01:02 PM
In article <13tnu21ekunpte7@corp.supernews.com>,
"Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:

> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> > Steven L. wrote:
> >> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
> >> upcoming Trek XI:
> >>
> >> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
> >> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
> >> the production.
> >> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious science-fiction
> >> movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey take on the original
> >> series. It's a faithful and loving instalment in the ongoing mythology
> >> of the show".
> >>
> >> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring the
> >> new cast.
> >>
> >> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
> >> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
> >> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years
> >> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
> >> argument".
> >
> > Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find himself
> > comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy train for life.
> > There will always be Star Trek conventions for him to attend and get paid
> > handsomely for doing so.
> > I'd say that's an even better argument.
>
> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
> what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole years.
> James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
> couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
>
> Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
> Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
> weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.

Pegg doesn't need to worry about typecasting. He doesn't come to ST as
a unknown character actor.

\(not quite so\) Fat Sam
03-15-2008, 01:59 PM
Steven L. wrote:
> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
>> Steven L. wrote:
>>> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
>>> upcoming Trek XI:
>>>
>>> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
>>> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
>>> the production.
>>> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious
>>> science-fiction movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey
>>> take on the original series. It's a faithful and loving instalment
>>> in the ongoing mythology of the show".
>>>
>>> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring
>>> the new cast.
>>>
>>> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
>>> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
>>> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years
>>> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
>>> argument".
>>
>> Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find
>> himself comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy
>> train for life. There will always be Star Trek conventions for him
>> to attend and get paid handsomely for doing so.
>> I'd say that's an even better argument.
>
> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
> what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole
> years. James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as
> "Scotty" and couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
>
> Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
> Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
> weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.

Slightly different situation, as Simon Pegg is already a well known and
established actor. I think it's unlikely that he'll find himself typecast
now.

GeneK
03-15-2008, 02:26 PM
"Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote...
> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
> what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole years.
> James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
> couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
>
> Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
> Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
> weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.

I think you have to give due consideration to the acting
careers most of these people had prior to TOS, which
was not exactly anything to write home about. It's very
likely that we would not remember any of them today at
all if not for Trek.

If Pegg doesn't become typecast as Scotty, he'll just
end up being best remembered for Shaun of the
Dead anyway.

GeneK

\(not quite so\) Fat Sam
03-15-2008, 03:12 PM
GeneK wrote:
> "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote...
>> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which
>> is what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole
>> years. James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as
>> "Scotty" and couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
>>
>> Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
>> Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
>> weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.
>
> I think you have to give due consideration to the acting
> careers most of these people had prior to TOS, which
> was not exactly anything to write home about. It's very
> likely that we would not remember any of them today at
> all if not for Trek.
>
> If Pegg doesn't become typecast as Scotty, he'll just
> end up being best remembered for Shaun of the
> Dead anyway.

And Spaced, and Hot Fuzz, and Run Fat Boy Run, etc etc etc

Anybody
03-15-2008, 04:45 PM
In article <13tnu21ekunpte7@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
<sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:

> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> > Steven L. wrote:
> >> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
> >> upcoming Trek XI:
> >>
> >> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
> >> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
> >> the production.
> >> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious science-fiction
> >> movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey take on the original
> >> series. It's a faithful and loving instalment in the ongoing mythology
> >> of the show".
> >>
> >> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring the
> >> new cast.
> >>
> >> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
> >> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
> >> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years
> >> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
> >> argument".
> >
> > Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find himself
> > comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy train for life.
> > There will always be Star Trek conventions for him to attend and get paid
> > handsomely for doing so.
> > I'd say that's an even better argument.
>
> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
> what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole years.
> James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
> couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
>
> Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
> Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
> weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.

Semi-true. "Scotty" did a couple of other roles and so has "Ulhura" and
"Sulu", but not many ... then again very few actors get multiple big
roles, especially the "non-stars" of a show.

Anybody
03-15-2008, 04:47 PM
In article
<bob-B4F088.11025115032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, Warchild
<bob@bob.com> wrote:

> In article <13tnu21ekunpte7@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> > > Steven L. wrote:
> > >> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
> > >> upcoming Trek XI:
> > >>
> > >> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
> > >> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
> > >> the production.
> > >> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious science-fiction
> > >> movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey take on the original
> > >> series. It's a faithful and loving instalment in the ongoing mythology
> > >> of the show".
> > >>
> > >> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring the
> > >> new cast.
> > >>
> > >> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
> > >> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
> > >> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years
> > >> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
> > >> argument".
> > >
> > > Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find himself
> > > comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy train for
> > > life.
> > > There will always be Star Trek conventions for him to attend and get paid
> > > handsomely for doing so.
> > > I'd say that's an even better argument.
> >
> > Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
> > what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole years.
> > James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
> > couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
> >
> > Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
> > Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
> > weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.
>
> Pegg doesn't need to worry about typecasting. He doesn't come to ST as
> a unknown character actor.

Besides, "Star Trek" may well be dead after this movie.

Wouter Valentijn
03-15-2008, 05:46 PM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <13tnu21ekunpte7@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
>>> Steven L. wrote:
>>>> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
>>>> upcoming Trek XI:
>>>>
>>>> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
>>>> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
>>>> the production.
>>>> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious
>>>> science-fiction movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey
>>>> take on the original series. It's a faithful and loving instalment
>>>> in the ongoing mythology of the show".
>>>>
>>>> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring
>>>> the new cast.
>>>>
>>>> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for
>>>> nine years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J
>>>> said, "If the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every
>>>> three years and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought
>>>> that was a great argument".
>>>
>>> Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find
>>> himself comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy
>>> train for life. There will always be Star Trek conventions for him
>>> to attend and get paid handsomely for doing so.
>>> I'd say that's an even better argument.
>>
>> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which
>> is what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole
>> years. James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as
>> "Scotty" and couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
>>
>> Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
>> Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
>> weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.
>
> Semi-true. "Scotty" did a couple of other roles and so has "Ulhura"
> and "Sulu", but not many ... then again very few actors get multiple
> big roles, especially the "non-stars" of a show.

Once a sidekick always a sidekick?

Let's look at the Great Eight (making that up just now of course, consisting
of the Big Three, The Fab Four plus Majel).

William Shatner:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000638/ (192 roles)

Leonard Nimoy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000559/ (109 roles)

Deforest Kelley:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001420/ (123 roles)

James Doohan:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001150/ (81 roles)

George Takei

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001786/ (133 roles)

Nichelle Nichols

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0629667/ (40 roles)

Walter Koenig

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000479/ (55 roles)

Majel Barret

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000854/ (61 roles)



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Anybody
03-15-2008, 06:41 PM
In article <47dc43a6$0$14354$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:

> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <13tnu21ekunpte7@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> > <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> >>> Steven L. wrote:
> >>>> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
> >>>> upcoming Trek XI:
> >>>>
> >>>> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
> >>>> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
> >>>> the production.
> >>>> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious
> >>>> science-fiction movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey
> >>>> take on the original series. It's a faithful and loving instalment
> >>>> in the ongoing mythology of the show".
> >>>>
> >>>> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring
> >>>> the new cast.
> >>>>
> >>>> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for
> >>>> nine years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J
> >>>> said, "If the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every
> >>>> three years and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought
> >>>> that was a great argument".
> >>>
> >>> Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find
> >>> himself comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy
> >>> train for life. There will always be Star Trek conventions for him
> >>> to attend and get paid handsomely for doing so.
> >>> I'd say that's an even better argument.
> >>
> >> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which
> >> is what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole
> >> years. James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as
> >> "Scotty" and couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
> >>
> >> Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
> >> Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
> >> weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.
> >
> > Semi-true. "Scotty" did a couple of other roles and so has "Ulhura"
> > and "Sulu", but not many ... then again very few actors get multiple
> > big roles, especially the "non-stars" of a show.
>
> Once a sidekick always a sidekick?
>
> Let's look at the Great Eight (making that up just now of course, consisting
> of the Big Three, The Fab Four plus Majel).
>
> William Shatner:
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000638/ (192 roles)
>
> Leonard Nimoy:
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000559/ (109 roles)
>
> Deforest Kelley:
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001420/ (123 roles)
>
> James Doohan:
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001150/ (81 roles)
>
> George Takei
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001786/ (133 roles)
>
> Nichelle Nichols
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0629667/ (40 roles)
>
> Walter Koenig
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000479/ (55 roles)
>
> Majel Barret
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000854/ (61 roles)

Some of those roles will of course come from before they were in Star
Trek, and some will be were they played themselves rather than an
actual character (eg. George Takei on an episode of Psych that played
here recently).

Kweeg
03-15-2008, 08:23 PM
"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:160320080847572575%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article
> <bob-B4F088.11025115032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, Warchild
> <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <13tnu21ekunpte7@corp.supernews.com>,
> > "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> > > > Steven L. wrote:
> > > >> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
> > > >> upcoming Trek XI:
> > > >>
> > > >> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
> > > >> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
> > > >> the production.
> > > >> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious
science-fiction
> > > >> movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey take on the
original
> > > >> series. It's a faithful and loving instalment in the ongoing
mythology
> > > >> of the show".
> > > >>
> > > >> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring
the
> > > >> new cast.
> > > >>
> > > >> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for
nine
> > > >> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
> > > >> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three
years
> > > >> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
> > > >> argument".
> > > >
> > > > Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find
himself
> > > > comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy train
for
> > > > life.
> > > > There will always be Star Trek conventions for him to attend and get
paid
> > > > handsomely for doing so.
> > > > I'd say that's an even better argument.
> > >
> > > Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
> > > what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole
years.
> > > James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
> > > couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
> > >
> > > Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
> > > Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
> > > weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.
> >
> > Pegg doesn't need to worry about typecasting. He doesn't come to ST as
> > a unknown character actor.
>
> Besides, "Star Trek" may well be dead after this movie.


or not, and people like Anybody" will look like even bigger idiots.
"I've been dead before"
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Kweeg
03-15-2008, 08:26 PM
"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:160320081041222525%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <47dc43a6$0$14354$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>
> > Anybody wrote:
> > > In article <13tnu21ekunpte7@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> > > <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> > >>> Steven L. wrote:
> > >>>> Excerpts from an interview with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty in the
> > >>>> upcoming Trek XI:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "I have to go back next week for a couple of effects shots but
> > >>>> otherwise I'm done. Eric's [Bana] only just started". he said about
> > >>>> the production.
> > >>>> Pegg says the new Star Trek prequel is a very serious
> > >>>> science-fiction movie. "It's not at all ironic. It's not a jokey
> > >>>> take on the original series. It's a faithful and loving instalment
> > >>>> in the ongoing mythology of the show".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Pegg reveals that there will be sequels to the new movie featuring
> > >>>> the new cast.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for
> > >>>> nine years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J
> > >>>> said, "If the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every
> > >>>> three years and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought
> > >>>> that was a great argument".
> > >>>
> > >>> Plus, having played a major part in any trek story, he'll find
> > >>> himself comfortably sat in the first class compartment of the gravy
> > >>> train for life. There will always be Star Trek conventions for him
> > >>> to attend and get paid handsomely for doing so.
> > >>> I'd say that's an even better argument.
> > >>
> > >> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which
> > >> is what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole
> > >> years. James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as
> > >> "Scotty" and couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
> > >>
> > >> Shatner and Nimoy managed to find other plum assignments (Mission:
> > >> Impossible, T. J. Hooker, etc.). The rest of the regular TOS cast
> > >> weren't as lucky. They never escaped their TOS typecasting.
> > >
> > > Semi-true. "Scotty" did a couple of other roles and so has "Ulhura"
> > > and "Sulu", but not many ... then again very few actors get multiple
> > > big roles, especially the "non-stars" of a show.
> >
> > Once a sidekick always a sidekick?
> >
> > Let's look at the Great Eight (making that up just now of course,
consisting
> > of the Big Three, The Fab Four plus Majel).
> >
> > William Shatner:
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000638/ (192 roles)
> >
> > Leonard Nimoy:
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000559/ (109 roles)
> >
> > Deforest Kelley:
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001420/ (123 roles)
> >
> > James Doohan:
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001150/ (81 roles)
> >
> > George Takei
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001786/ (133 roles)
> >
> > Nichelle Nichols
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0629667/ (40 roles)
> >
> > Walter Koenig
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000479/ (55 roles)
> >
> > Majel Barret
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000854/ (61 roles)
>
> Some of those roles will of course come from before they were in Star
> Trek, and some will be were they played themselves rather than an
> actual character (eg. George Takei on an episode of Psych that played
> here recently).

So yet again Anybody's got nothn'

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Wouter Valentijn
03-16-2008, 09:19 AM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <47dc43a6$0$14354$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:

<snip>

>
> Some of those roles will of course come from before they were in Star
> Trek, and some will be were they played themselves rather than an
> actual character (eg. George Takei on an episode of Psych that played
> here recently).

Of course. And some of those roles will be from /after/ Star Trek.
They are actors and that's how they (want) to make a living.


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George Peatty
03-21-2008, 11:33 PM
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:24:32 -0400, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
>what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole years.
>James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
>couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.

Doohan's resume, post-TOS, Star Trek credits snipped:

Skinwalker: Curse of the Shaman (2005) (V) .... Judge Peterson

The Duke (1999) .... Clive Chives
... aka Hubert (Canada: French title)
... aka Hubert, son altesse canine (Canada: French title: TV title)
Through Dead Eyes (1999) .... Barney Fredericks
Bug Buster (1998) .... Sheriff Carlson
... aka Some Things Never Die (UK: video title)
"The Bold and the Beautiful" .... Damon Warwick (2 episodes, 1996)
... aka Belleza y poder (USA: Spanish title)
- Episode #1.2436 (1996) TV episode .... Damon Warwick
- Episode #1.2434 (1996) TV episode .... Damon Warwick
"Homeboys in Outer Space" .... Pippen (1 episode, 1996)
- There's No Space Like Home, or Return of the Jed Eye (1996) TV
Storybook (1995) .... Uncle Monty
New York Skyride (1994)
River of Stone (1994)
Loaded Weapon 1 (1993) .... Scotty
... aka National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1 (USA: complete title)
Amore! (1993) .... Dr. Landon
Double Trouble (1992/I) .... O'Brien
"MacGyver" .... Speedy (1 episode, 1990)
- Harry's Will (1990) TV episode .... Speedy
"Danger Bay" .... Pete (1 episode, 1988)
- Put a Little Back (1988) TV episode .... Pete
"Série noire" (1 episode, 1987)
- 1996 (1987) TV episode
"Hotel" .... Roger (1 episode, 1985)
... aka Arthur Hailey's Hotel
- Resolutions (1985) TV episode .... Roger
"Magnum, P.I." .... Archie MacPherson (1 episode, 1983)
- The Big Blow (1983) TV episode .... Archie MacPherson
"Fantasy Island" .... Governor Gaspar d'Annard (1 episode, 1983)
"Jason of Star Command" .... Commander Canarvin (16 episodes, 1978-1980)
- The Victory of Star Command (1978) TV episode .... Commander
Canarvin
- The Trojan Horse (1978) TV episode .... Commander Canarvin
- Peepo on Trial (1978) TV episode .... Commander Canarvin
- Return of the Creature (1978) TV episode .... Commander Canarvin
- Escape from Kesh (1978) TV episode .... Commander Canarvin
(11 more)
"Tarzan and the Super 7" (1978) TV series .... Commander Canarvin
"Return to Peyton Place" (1972) TV series .... Mr. Blake (1974)
Man in the Wilderness (1971) .... Benoit
Pretty Maids All in a Row (1971) .... Follo
"Daniel Boone" .... Fletcher / ... (2 episodes, 1969-1970)
- Perilous Passage (1970) TV episode .... Fletcher
- The Cache (1969) TV episode .... Macfarland

"Marcus Welby, M.D." .... Detective Sgt. Brenner (1 episode, 1969)
... aka Robert Young, Family Doctor
- Let Ernest Come Over (1969) TV episode .... Detective Sgt.
Brenner
"Then Came Bronson" .... Dr. John Wilson, M.D. (1 episode, 1969)
- Amid Splinters of the Thunderbolt (1969) TV episode .... Dr.
John Wilson, M.D.

Obviously, he did not have the career Shatner or Nimoy had, and it is fair
to say he was typecast after TOS, but "couldn't find work elsewhere" simply
is not true ..

Dough
03-22-2008, 10:32 AM
> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If the
> worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years and have
> great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great argument".

I remember an interview with Mr. Shatner after ST3 where he was asked how
many Trek films he was willing to make. His reply was something like, "Let
me ask you a question... if someone offered you a pile of money to get
together with old friends and have the time of your life every three years,
how many would YOU do?"

Dough
03-22-2008, 10:36 AM
> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
> what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole years.
> James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
> couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.

This was a viable argument in the 60s, but doesn't wash today. I believe
Chris Reeve broke the "typecast" mold (along with Sean Connery) and now Eric
Bana is NOT only the Hulk, Christian Bale is NOT only Batman, etc. We, as a
vviewing public, can (thankfully) see beyond an actor's last role.

Wickeddoll®
03-22-2008, 12:44 PM
"Dough" ...
>> Not if he wants to avoid being typecast as a Star Trek actor, which is
>> what will happen if he is stuck with the franchise for nine whole years.
>> James Doohan was never able to avoid being typecast as "Scotty" and
>> couldn't find work elsewhere after TOS was canceled.
>
> This was a viable argument in the 60s, but doesn't wash today. I believe
> Chris Reeve broke the "typecast" mold (along with Sean Connery) and now
> Eric Bana is NOT only the Hulk, Christian Bale is NOT only Batman, etc.
> We, as a vviewing public, can (thankfully) see beyond an actor's last
> role.

If the actor is truly talented, they can cast off their well-known
character, and inhabit the role. It's a rare gift, though. When a
character is portrayed, the actor has a natural tendency to incorporate
his/her own body language, affectations, etc. This is why Shatner is seen
almost exclusively as Kirk - he had so many tics, as well as his pressured
delivery of his lines. The "Denny Crane" character is just a parody of
Kirk, IMO. Hilarious, but Kirk nevertheless (at least to me).

Nimoy sort of has that curse too, but he managed to overcome it a few times
("Never Forget").

Natalie

Steven L.
03-22-2008, 01:41 PM
Dough wrote:
>
>> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
>> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
>> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years
>> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
>> argument".
>
> I remember an interview with Mr. Shatner after ST3 where he was asked
> how many Trek films he was willing to make. His reply was something
> like, "Let me ask you a question... if someone offered you a pile of
> money to get together with old friends and have the time of your life
> every three years, how many would YOU do?"

I request that the delegation be polled.

How many of the other actors were having the "time of their life"?

I get the distinct feeling that Shatner is the one who really enjoys
this crap (despite telling fans to "Get a life!"). While someone like
Nichelle Nichols would have chucked the whole thing a long time ago.

In fact, Nichelle is known to have seriously considered quitting TOS
right in the middle of its production.


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Wouter Valentijn
03-22-2008, 02:32 PM
Steven L. wrote:
> Dough wrote:
>>
>>> "I was slightly worried about tying myself into a franchise for nine
>>> years. It was obviously something to think about, but J.J said, "If
>>> the worst thing that happens is we get to hang out every three years
>>> and have great fun, what's the problem?" I thought that was a great
>>> argument".
>>
>> I remember an interview with Mr. Shatner after ST3 where he was asked
>> how many Trek films he was willing to make. His reply was something
>> like, "Let me ask you a question... if someone offered you a pile of
>> money to get together with old friends and have the time of your life
>> every three years, how many would YOU do?"
>
> I request that the delegation be polled.
>
> How many of the other actors were having the "time of their life"?
>
> I get the distinct feeling that Shatner is the one who really enjoys
> this crap (despite telling fans to "Get a life!"). While someone like
> Nichelle Nichols would have chucked the whole thing a long time ago.
>
> In fact, Nichelle is known to have seriously considered quitting TOS
> right in the middle of its production.

Because she felt her role was limited to 'hailing frequencies'. But then
came MLK and the rest is history.
And after that she was in all the TOS movies and participated in that fan
production they are working on. She even played herself once in a sitcom
(can't remember the title, but it was about some kind of advanced class I
think and I also believe the teacher was played by an actor who played the
role of the father in 'Diffrent Strokes')..
I don't think she regrets being part of Trek.

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George Peatty
03-22-2008, 03:15 PM
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:44:44 -0400, "Wickeddoll®"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is why Shatner is seen
>almost exclusively as Kirk - he had so many tics, as well as his pressured
>delivery of his lines. The "Denny Crane" character is just a parody of
>Kirk, IMO. Hilarious, but Kirk nevertheless (at least to me).

I don't agree. I watched Boston Legal, looking to catch Denny Crane
channeling James Kirk, and never heard a single Kirk-ism ..

Wickeddoll®
03-22-2008, 03:28 PM
"George Peatty"
, "Wickeddoll®"
> < wrote:
>
>> This is why Shatner is seen
>>almost exclusively as Kirk - he had so many tics, as well as his pressured
>>delivery of his lines. The "Denny Crane" character is just a parody of
>>Kirk, IMO. Hilarious, but Kirk nevertheless (at least to me).
>
> I don't agree. I watched Boston Legal, looking to catch Denny Crane
> channeling James Kirk, and never heard a single Kirk-ism ..

Oh, come on - the over-the-top delivery? Don't get me wrong; I think
Shatner's a skilled actor, but his body language has always looked the same
to me. Even when I saw him in person:

http://www.wegrokspock.net

By comparison, Keanu Reeves is not a good actor at *all*, but I love the
type of film work he does, so it doesn't bother me.

His being totally hot doesn't hurt, either.

:-D

Natalie

Wouter Valentijn
03-22-2008, 06:28 PM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <dkmau3hkv0p5m885l1dcorj64j0o5e936g@4ax.com>, George Peatty
> <peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:44:44 -0400, "Wickeddoll®"
>> <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is why Shatner is seen
>>> almost exclusively as Kirk - he had so many tics, as well as his
>>> pressured delivery of his lines. The "Denny Crane" character is
>>> just a parody of Kirk, IMO. Hilarious, but Kirk nevertheless (at
>>> least to me).
>>
>> I don't agree. I watched Boston Legal, looking to catch Denny Crane
>> channeling James Kirk, and never heard a single Kirk-ism ..
>
> There was an in-joke shown in a promo advert here last week. Shatner's
> character flipped open his mobile phone and it made Star Trek
> communicator noises and he held it like a communicator from the
> original TV show. :-)

Obviously one day Denny's offspring will move from Massachusetts to Iowa.
:-)

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Anybody
03-22-2008, 07:22 PM
In article <dkmau3hkv0p5m885l1dcorj64j0o5e936g@4ax.com>, George Peatty
<peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:44:44 -0400, "Wickeddoll®"
> <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > This is why Shatner is seen
> >almost exclusively as Kirk - he had so many tics, as well as his pressured
> >delivery of his lines. The "Denny Crane" character is just a parody of
> >Kirk, IMO. Hilarious, but Kirk nevertheless (at least to me).
>
> I don't agree. I watched Boston Legal, looking to catch Denny Crane
> channeling James Kirk, and never heard a single Kirk-ism ..

There was an in-joke shown in a promo advert here last week. Shatner's
character flipped open his mobile phone and it made Star Trek
communicator noises and he held it like a communicator from the
original TV show. :-)

Wickeddoll®
03-22-2008, 11:18 PM
"Anybody" ...
> George Peatty
"Wickeddoll®"
wrote:
>>
>> > This is why Shatner is seen
>> >almost exclusively as Kirk - he had so many tics, as well as his
>> >pressured
>> >delivery of his lines. The "Denny Crane" character is just a parody of
>> >Kirk, IMO. Hilarious, but Kirk nevertheless (at least to me).
>>
>> I don't agree. I watched Boston Legal, looking to catch Denny Crane
>> channeling James Kirk, and never heard a single Kirk-ism ..
>
> There was an in-joke shown in a promo advert here last week. Shatner's
> character flipped open his mobile phone and it made Star Trek
> communicator noises and he held it like a communicator from the
> original TV show. :-)

LOL that would be a cool out-take.

Natalie