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Wiseguy
03-14-2008, 07:05 AM
"\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:

> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played
> Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to
> me.
>
>
>

She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"
she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.

She also was in the TV version of "Born Free" and simultaneously played the
girlfriends of Tony Randall (The Tony Randall Show) and Dennis Weaver
(McCloud) and was a lawyer who died falling down an elevator shaft on L.A.
Law.

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\(not quite so\) Fat Sam
03-14-2008, 07:32 AM
While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played Dr
Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to bridge
the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to me.

Benjamin Pavsner
03-14-2008, 01:20 PM
I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the TNG era
(Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana Muldaur) that have had
steady employment throughout the Trekverse. Some have even been rewarded
with being cast as regular cast members (Armin Shimerman).
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
message news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org...
> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played Dr
> Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to me.
>
>

RuPEDski
03-14-2008, 03:48 PM
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
message news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org...
> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played Dr
> Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to me.
>

When they fired Pulaski, Roddenberry pointed out that it was obvious he
thought she was a great actress having used her in roles so many times.

\(not quite so\) Fat Sam
03-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the
> TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana Muldaur)
> that have had steady employment throughout the Trekverse. Some have
> even been rewarded with being cast as regular cast members (Armin
> Shimerman).

Armin Shimerman?
He was Quark wasn't he?
Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?

Bill Plenge
03-14-2008, 04:17 PM
(not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
>> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the
>> TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana Muldaur)
>> that have had steady employment throughout the Trekverse. Some have
>> even been rewarded with being cast as regular cast members (Armin
>> Shimerman).
>
> Armin Shimerman?
> He was Quark wasn't he?
> Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?

Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.

Wiseguy
03-14-2008, 04:30 PM
"Bill Plenge" <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com> wrote in news:fremga$2e1$1@aioe.org:

> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
>> Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
>>> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the
>>> TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana Muldaur)
>>> that have had steady employment throughout the Trekverse. Some have
>>> even been rewarded with being cast as regular cast members (Armin
>>> Shimerman).
>>
>> Armin Shimerman?
>> He was Quark wasn't he?
>> Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?
>
> Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.
>
>

As Shimerman himself has pointed out, he was the first to play a Ferengi on
Trek ("The Last Outpost").

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Anybody
03-14-2008, 04:50 PM
In article <fremga$2e1$1@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge" <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com>
wrote:

> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> > Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
> >> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the
> >> TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana Muldaur)
> >> that have had steady employment throughout the Trekverse. Some have
> >> even been rewarded with being cast as regular cast members (Armin
> >> Shimerman).
> >
> > Armin Shimerman?
> > He was Quark wasn't he?
> > Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?
>
> Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.

And Combs has played just about every minor alien species there is ...
and he does so badly since they all seem to be the same! Same voice,
smae mannerisms, ... :-\

Even actor playing Nog had another small part in an episode of Voyager.

SeaQuest334
03-14-2008, 05:02 PM
On Mar 14, 4:50 pm, Anybody <anyb...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
> In article <fremga$2e...@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge" <B_Ple...@NoSpam.com>
> wrote:
>
> > (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> > > Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
> > >> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the
> > >> TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana Muldaur)
> > >> that have had steady employment throughout the Trekverse. Some have
> > >> even been rewarded with being cast as regular cast members  (Armin
> > >> Shimerman).
>
> > > Armin Shimerman?
> > > He was Quark wasn't he?
> > > Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?
>
> Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.

I also believe he was the principal in Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

\(not quite so\) Fat Sam
03-14-2008, 06:55 PM
SeaQuest334 wrote:
> On Mar 14, 4:50 pm, Anybody <anyb...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>> In article <fremga$2e...@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge"
>> <B_Ple...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
>>>> Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
>>>>> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in
>>>>> the TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana
>>>>> Muldaur) that have had steady employment throughout the
>>>>> Trekverse. Some have even been rewarded with being cast as
>>>>> regular cast members (Armin Shimerman).
>>
>>>> Armin Shimerman?
>>>> He was Quark wasn't he?
>>>> Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?
>>
>> Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.
>
> I also believe he was the principal in Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

Aaaah. I think you're right there.

\(not quite so\) Fat Sam
03-14-2008, 06:57 PM
Wiseguy wrote:
> "Bill Plenge" <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com> wrote in
> news:fremga$2e1$1@aioe.org:
>
>> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
>>> Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
>>>> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the
>>>> TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana
>>>> Muldaur) that have had steady employment throughout the Trekverse.
>>>> Some have even been rewarded with being cast as regular cast
>>>> members (Armin Shimerman).
>>>
>>> Armin Shimerman?
>>> He was Quark wasn't he?
>>> Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?
>>
>> Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.
>>
>>
>
> As Shimerman himself has pointed out, he was the first to play a
> Ferengi on Trek ("The Last Outpost").

Awesome. I'm gonna have to dig that episode out and rewatch it...
So not only was he the most famous Ferengi in trek history, he was also the
first to ever be seen.
You could say he defined what it is to be Ferengi.

RuPEDski
03-14-2008, 11:24 PM
"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:150320080950186229%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <fremga$2e1$1@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge" <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
>> > Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
>> >> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the
>> >> TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana Muldaur)
>> >> that have had steady employment throughout the Trekverse. Some have
>> >> even been rewarded with being cast as regular cast members (Armin
>> >> Shimerman).
>> >
>> > Armin Shimerman?
>> > He was Quark wasn't he?
>> > Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?
>>
>> Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.
>
> And Combs has played just about every minor alien species there is ...
> and he does so badly since they all seem to be the same! Same voice,
> smae mannerisms, ... :-\
>
> Even actor playing Nog had another small part in an episode of Voyager.

Yes, as one of the most annoying of an incredibly annoying species, the
kazon....only capt. janeway could manage to keep being outsmarted and losing
the ship to them ;-)

Combs does use that same distinct voice....Martok does a bit better job of
disguising his unique voice and I think he's better overall at playing
various parts. Still, I actually like Trek supporters being re-used. They
are very good character actors generally and while it does distract you for
a second, it lends a strange continuity and familiarity.

RuPEDski
03-14-2008, 11:26 PM
"RuPEDski" <datacipher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%jHCj.87810$w94.41129@pd7urf2no...
>
> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:150320080950186229%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
>> In article <fremga$2e1$1@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge" <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
>>> > Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
>>> >> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in the
>>> >> TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana Muldaur)
>>> >> that have had steady employment throughout the Trekverse. Some have
>>> >> even been rewarded with being cast as regular cast members (Armin
>>> >> Shimerman).
>>> >
>>> > Armin Shimerman?
>>> > He was Quark wasn't he?
>>> > Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?
>>>
>>> Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.
>>
>> And Combs has played just about every minor alien species there is ...
>> and he does so badly since they all seem to be the same! Same voice,
>> smae mannerisms, ... :-\
>>
>> Even actor playing Nog had another small part in an episode of Voyager.
>
> Yes, as one of the most annoying of an incredibly annoying species, the
> kazon....only capt. janeway could manage to keep being outsmarted and
> losing the ship to them ;-)
>
> Combs does use that same distinct voice....Martok does a bit better job of
> disguising his unique voice and I think he's better overall at playing
> various parts. Still, I actually like Trek supporters being re-used. They
> are very good character actors generally and while it does distract you
> for a second, it lends a strange continuity and familiarity. >
>
And you have to admit, it's a HELLUVA lot better than a bunch of knobs
showing up on the big screen going "hey, I"M spock! Look at me, I got his
haircut and I do vaguely resemble him!" "hey, I'm scotty, look i'm doing his
accent!!" ;-)

Steven L.
03-15-2008, 12:23 AM
Wiseguy wrote:
> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
> news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>
>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played
>> Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
>> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
>> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to
>> me.

The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and even
voices in TAS.


> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"
> she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.

She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.

She *also* portrayed Felesa (sp?) in the TOS episode "Return to Tomorrow".


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Wiseguy
03-15-2008, 12:26 AM
"Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com:

> Wiseguy wrote:
>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote
>> in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>
>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
>>> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise
>>> to me.
>
> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and even
> voices in TAS.
>
>

His voice was also featured (as Sarek) on the record album (yes, kids,
before CDs) "Inside Star Trek." Gene Roddenberry "interviewed" Sarek as
well as William Shatner, DeForest Kelley and Isaac Asimov.
(Columbia Records, 1976.)

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MrSpook
03-15-2008, 12:40 AM
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:23:31 -0400, "Steven L."
<sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Wiseguy wrote:
>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>
>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played
>>> Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
>>> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
>>> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to
>>> me.
>
>The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and even
>voices in TAS.
>
>
>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"
>> she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>
>She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
>McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
>
>She *also* portrayed Felesa (sp?) in the TOS episode "Return to Tomorrow".


She actually played Dr. Ron Pulaski. :)

MrSpook
03-15-2008, 12:45 AM
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:40:28 -0400, MrSpook <never@home.world> wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:23:31 -0400, "Steven L."
><sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Wiseguy wrote:
>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played
>>>> Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
>>>> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
>>>> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to
>>>> me.
>>
>>The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>>appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and even
>>voices in TAS.
>>
>>
>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"
>>> she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>>
>>She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
>>McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
>>
>>She *also* portrayed Felesa (sp?) in the TOS episode "Return to Tomorrow".
>
>
> She actually played Dr. Ron Pulaski. :)
>


I think it's pronounced, "Dr. Ron Paul ask he".

(But then I might be confusing her with some reggae song.)

Anybody
03-15-2008, 01:16 AM
In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
<sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Wiseguy wrote:
> > "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
> > news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
> >
> >> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played
> >> Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
> >> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> >> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
> >> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to
> >> me.
>
> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and even
> voices in TAS.
>
>
> > She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"
> > she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>
> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
<snip>

Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.

Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
especially multiple roles in the same "series".

Bill Plenge
03-15-2008, 06:17 AM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Wiseguy wrote:
>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians
>>>> to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun
>>>> surprise to me.
>>
>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
>> even voices in TAS.
>>
>>
>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
>>> Beauty?" she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>>
>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> <snip>
>
> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
>
> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> especially multiple roles in the same "series".

I'm glad that the producers of M*A*S*H didn't follow that advice when Henrly
Blake left the show, though replacing him with Harry Morgan who previously
played a crazy general may've made for a few stracthed heads until people
got use to the idea.

Ric
03-15-2008, 08:38 AM
"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:150320081816486371%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Wiseguy wrote:
>> > "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
>> > news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>> >
>> >> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played
>> >> Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
>> >> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>> >> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
>> >> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to
>> >> me.
>>
>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and even
>> voices in TAS.
>>
>>
>> > She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
>> > Beauty?"
>> > she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>>
>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> <snip>
>
> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
>
> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> especially multiple roles in the same "series".

Dennis Franz was recast as a second character on Hill Street Blues and went
the distance on that show only to play, essentially, the same part on NYPD
Blues for which he won four Emmys.

Wouter Valentijn
03-15-2008, 12:20 PM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Wiseguy wrote:
>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians
>>>> to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun
>>>> surprise to me.
>>
>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
>> even voices in TAS.
>>
>>
>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
>>> Beauty?" she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>>
>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> <snip>
>
> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.

Indeed.

>
> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> especially multiple roles in the same "series".

Not even Jeff Combs? :-)

I have zero problems with multiple roles.

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Wouter Valentijn
03-15-2008, 12:23 PM
(not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
> SeaQuest334 wrote:
>> On Mar 14, 4:50 pm, Anybody <anyb...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>>> In article <fremga$2e...@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge"
>>> <B_Ple...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:
>>>>> Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
>>>>>> I know there've been some "go to" people that have been cast in
>>>>>> the TNG era (Jeffrey Combs, Mark Alaimo, J.G. Hertler and Diana
>>>>>> Muldaur) that have had steady employment throughout the
>>>>>> Trekverse. Some have even been rewarded with being cast as
>>>>>> regular cast members (Armin Shimerman).
>>>
>>>>> Armin Shimerman?
>>>>> He was Quark wasn't he?
>>>>> Did he play parts in other trek's besides DS9?
>>>
>>> Yes, he was a Ferengi in TNG also.
>>
>> I also believe he was the principal in Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
>
> Aaaah. I think you're right there.

You are 100% correct.
He was principal Snyder. Eaten by the mayor (who had taken on the form of a
giant demonic snake).
The previous principal, Mister Flutie, was eaten by four students possesed
by hyena demons.


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Anybody
03-15-2008, 04:53 PM
In article <frg7o7$fl3$1@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge" <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com>
wrote:

> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> > <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Wiseguy wrote:
> >>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
> >>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
> >>>
> >>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
> >>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
> >>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> >>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians
> >>>> to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun
> >>>> surprise to me.
> >>
> >> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> >> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
> >> even voices in TAS.
> >>
> >>
> >>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
> >>> Beauty?" she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
> >>
> >> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
> >> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> > <snip>
> >
> > Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
> >
> > Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> > especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>
> I'm glad that the producers of M*A*S*H didn't follow that advice when Henrly
> Blake left the show, though replacing him with Harry Morgan who previously
> played a crazy general may've made for a few stracthed heads until people
> got use to the idea.

"Henry Blake" was the character's name played by McLean Stevenson
(spelling?). Harry Morgan played a totally different character named
"Sherman T. Potter" - anyone who got confused over that was an idiot
anyway. :-\

But, one actor taking over the role played by another wasn't what I was
talking about (although that is equally as silly!). We were talking
about the same actor playing two or more roles on the same show.

Someone like Combs could get away with it because the make-up means
they look totally different, but he's such a hopeless actor that all
the characters come out exactly the same.

Anybody
03-15-2008, 04:56 PM
In article <47dbc361$0$5651$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "Ric" <No@Way.com> wrote:

> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:150320081816486371%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> > In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> > <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Wiseguy wrote:
> >> > "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in
> >> > news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
> >> >
> >> >> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who played
> >> >> Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS episodes...
> >> >> Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> >> >> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
> >> >> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise to
> >> >> me.
> >>
> >> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> >> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and even
> >> voices in TAS.
> >>
> >>
> >> > She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
> >> > Beauty?"
> >> > she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
> >>
> >> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
> >> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> > <snip>
> >
> > Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
> >
> > Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> > especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>
> Dennis Franz was recast as a second character on Hill Street Blues and went
> the distance on that show only to play, essentially, the same part on NYPD
> Blues for which he won four Emmys.

It happens in many shows (Macgyver's boss played a different role in an
earlier episode). It's because the actor does well in the first role
that they bring him back for a second, but unless the first role is an
extremely minor one it's often annoying or confusing for the viewers,
even though it's usually good for the actor.

Anybody
03-15-2008, 04:58 PM
In article <47dbf738$0$14346$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:

> Anybody wrote:
> >
> > Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> > especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>
> Not even Jeff Combs? :-)

He first needs to learn how to actually act, rather than simply say the
lines he's been given. True acting is not just about playing multiple
roles, it's about being able to portray those different characters AS
different characters ... not the same character with a different
looking mask on his head. :-\

Bill Plenge
03-15-2008, 05:00 PM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <frg7o7$fl3$1@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge"
> <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>> Anybody wrote:
>>> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
>>> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wiseguy wrote:
>>>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
>>>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
>>>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians
>>>>>> to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun
>>>>>> surprise to me.
>>>>
>>>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>>>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
>>>> even voices in TAS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
>>>>> Beauty?" she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>>>>
>>>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
>>>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
>>>
>>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
>>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>>
>> I'm glad that the producers of M*A*S*H didn't follow that advice
>> when Henrly Blake left the show, though replacing him with Harry
>> Morgan who previously played a crazy general may've made for a few
>> stracthed heads until people got use to the idea.
>
> "Henry Blake" was the character's name played by McLean Stevenson
> (spelling?). Harry Morgan played a totally different character named
> "Sherman T. Potter" - anyone who got confused over that was an idiot
> anyway. :-\
>
> But, one actor taking over the role played by another wasn't what I
> was talking about (although that is equally as silly!). We were
> talking about the same actor playing two or more roles on the same
> show.
>
> Someone like Combs could get away with it because the make-up means
> they look totally different, but he's such a hopeless actor that all
> the characters come out exactly the same.

I was refering to Harry Morgan's earlier appearance where he was a crazy
general who wanted to court martial Hawkeye (that doesn't narrow it down to
omuch.) The one who told a black witness aat the cout martial to tell his
story then added, "But first a number" The conversation that followed was
something like this ...

Witness: "Sir?"
Morgan: "You know. A musical number, it's in your blood"
and it got worse from there.

Wouter Valentijn
03-15-2008, 05:55 PM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <47dbc361$0$5651$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "Ric" <No@Way.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
>> news:150320081816486371%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
>>> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
>>> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wiseguy wrote:
>>>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
>>>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
>>>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of
>>>>>> thespians to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as
>>>>>> a fun surprise to me.
>>>>
>>>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>>>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
>>>> even voices in TAS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
>>>>> Beauty?"
>>>>> she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>>>>
>>>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
>>>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
>>>
>>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
>>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>>
>> Dennis Franz was recast as a second character on Hill Street Blues
>> and went the distance on that show only to play, essentially, the
>> same part on NYPD Blues for which he won four Emmys.
>
> It happens in many shows (Macgyver's boss played a different role in
> an earlier episode). It's because the actor does well in the first
> role that they bring him back for a second, but unless the first role
> is an extremely minor one it's often annoying or confusing for the
> viewers, even though it's usually good for the actor.

Only if that viewer is a very casual one.
So casual he doesn't actually count.


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Wouter Valentijn
03-15-2008, 06:14 PM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <47dbf738$0$14346$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>
>> Anybody wrote:
>>>
>>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
>>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>>
>> Not even Jeff Combs? :-)
>
> He first needs to learn how to actually act, rather than simply say
> the lines he's been given. True acting is not just about playing
> multiple roles, it's about being able to portray those different
> characters AS different characters ... not the same character with a
> different looking mask on his head. :-\

I think you're being to harsh on Jeff. ;-)
Brunt was imo very different from Weyoun.Or Shran.

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Wouter Valentijn
03-15-2008, 06:23 PM
Wouter Valentijn wrote:
> Anybody wrote:
>> In article <47dbf738$0$14346$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
>> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple
>>>> roles, especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>>>
>>> Not even Jeff Combs? :-)
>>
>> He first needs to learn how to actually act, rather than simply say
>> the lines he's been given. True acting is not just about playing
>> multiple roles, it's about being able to portray those different
>> characters AS different characters ... not the same character with a
>> different looking mask on his head. :-\
>
> I think you're being to harsh on Jeff. ;-)
> Brunt was imo very different from Weyoun.Or Shran.

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5800995276015020426&q=jeff+combs+deep+space+nine&total=134&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5800995276015020426&q=jeff+combs+deep+space+nine&total=134&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
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Anybody
03-15-2008, 06:48 PM
In article <47dc45ee$0$14356$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:

> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <47dbc361$0$5651$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "Ric" <No@Way.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> >> news:150320081816486371%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> >>> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> >>> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Wiseguy wrote:
> >>>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
> >>>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
> >>>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
> >>>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> >>>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of
> >>>>>> thespians to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as
> >>>>>> a fun surprise to me.
> >>>>
> >>>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> >>>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
> >>>> even voices in TAS.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
> >>>>> Beauty?"
> >>>>> she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
> >>>>
> >>>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
> >>>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
> >>>
> >>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> >>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
> >>
> >> Dennis Franz was recast as a second character on Hill Street Blues
> >> and went the distance on that show only to play, essentially, the
> >> same part on NYPD Blues for which he won four Emmys.
> >
> > It happens in many shows (Macgyver's boss played a different role in
> > an earlier episode). It's because the actor does well in the first
> > role that they bring him back for a second, but unless the first role
> > is an extremely minor one it's often annoying or confusing for the
> > viewers, even though it's usually good for the actor.
>
> Only if that viewer is a very casual one.
> So casual he doesn't actually count.

To proper "fans" it can be annoying and incosistent as well -
especially if the actor is suddenly playing a completely opposite
character (eg. a 'baddie' and then a 'goodie').

With the huge number of wannabe actors in Hollyweird, it's also simply
unnecessary for minor roles.

Anybody
03-15-2008, 06:50 PM
In article <47dc4a5e$0$14343$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:

> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <47dbf738$0$14346$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> > Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
> >
> >> Anybody wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> >>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
> >>
> >> Not even Jeff Combs? :-)
> >
> > He first needs to learn how to actually act, rather than simply say
> > the lines he's been given. True acting is not just about playing
> > multiple roles, it's about being able to portray those different
> > characters AS different characters ... not the same character with a
> > different looking mask on his head. :-\
>
> I think you're being to harsh on Jeff. ;-)
> Brunt was imo very different from Weyoun.Or Shran.

Maybe it is overly harsh, but every time I hear his voice it's a case
of "Oh no, not him again!". :-( It wouldn't surprise me if he was a
long-time close friend of Beavis or Butthead.

Anybody
03-15-2008, 06:56 PM
In article <frhdcm$8q5$1@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge" <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com>
wrote:

> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <frg7o7$fl3$1@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge"
> > <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anybody wrote:
> >>> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> >>> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Wiseguy wrote:
> >>>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
> >>>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
> >>>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
> >>>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> >>>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians
> >>>>>> to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun
> >>>>>> surprise to me.
> >>>>
> >>>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> >>>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
> >>>> even voices in TAS.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
> >>>>> Beauty?" she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
> >>>>
> >>>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
> >>>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
> >>>
> >>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> >>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
> >>
> >> I'm glad that the producers of M*A*S*H didn't follow that advice
> >> when Henrly Blake left the show, though replacing him with Harry
> >> Morgan who previously played a crazy general may've made for a few
> >> stracthed heads until people got use to the idea.
> >
> > "Henry Blake" was the character's name played by McLean Stevenson
> > (spelling?). Harry Morgan played a totally different character named
> > "Sherman T. Potter" - anyone who got confused over that was an idiot
> > anyway. :-\
> >
> > But, one actor taking over the role played by another wasn't what I
> > was talking about (although that is equally as silly!). We were
> > talking about the same actor playing two or more roles on the same
> > show.
> >
> > Someone like Combs could get away with it because the make-up means
> > they look totally different, but he's such a hopeless actor that all
> > the characters come out exactly the same.
>
> I was refering to Harry Morgan's earlier appearance where he was a crazy
> general who wanted to court martial Hawkeye (that doesn't narrow it down to
> omuch.) The one who told a black witness aat the cout martial to tell his
> story then added, "But first a number" The conversation that followed was
> something like this ...
>
> Witness: "Sir?"
> Morgan: "You know. A musical number, it's in your blood"
> and it got worse from there.

Ah, sorry, you're right. I'd forgotten that other appearance. He of
course added to the confusion by changing his name, sometimes it was
"Harry Morgan" and others "Henry Morgan".

Wiseguy
03-15-2008, 07:03 PM
Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in news:160320081048398851%
anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:

> In article <47dc45ee$0$14356$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>
>> Anybody wrote:
>> > In article <47dbc361$0$5651$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "Ric" <No@Way.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:150320081816486371%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
>> >>> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
>> >>> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Wiseguy wrote:
>> >>>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
>> >>>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress
who
>> >>>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
>> >>>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>> >>>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of
>> >>>>>> thespians to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came
as
>> >>>>>> a fun surprise to me.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>> >>>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG,
and
>> >>>> even voices in TAS.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
>> >>>>> Beauty?"
>> >>>>> she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until
Gates
>> >>>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
>> >>> <snip>
>> >>>
>> >>> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple
roles,
>> >>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>> >>
>> >> Dennis Franz was recast as a second character on Hill Street Blues
>> >> and went the distance on that show only to play, essentially, the
>> >> same part on NYPD Blues for which he won four Emmys.
>> >
>> > It happens in many shows (Macgyver's boss played a different role
in
>> > an earlier episode). It's because the actor does well in the first
>> > role that they bring him back for a second, but unless the first
role
>> > is an extremely minor one it's often annoying or confusing for the
>> > viewers, even though it's usually good for the actor.
>>
>> Only if that viewer is a very casual one.
>> So casual he doesn't actually count.
>
> To proper "fans" it can be annoying and incosistent as well -
> especially if the actor is suddenly playing a completely opposite
> character (eg. a 'baddie' and then a 'goodie').
>
> With the huge number of wannabe actors in Hollyweird, it's also simply
> unnecessary for minor roles.

Matlock did this often.

Both Nancy Stafford and Kari Lizer had one-shot roles in the first
season and became regulars in the second playing different parts.

In the two-parter guest-starring William Conrad that "inspired" Jake &
the Fatman Joe Penny played a mobster's son, then became Jake in the new
series.

Daniel Roebuck played a chubby lawyer in a couple of early episodes then
after losing weight he became a regular playing a different lawyer.

Brynn Thayer played a murderer in one episode and then became a regular
playing Matlock's daughter the following season.

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Jaxtraw
03-15-2008, 07:54 PM
Steven L. wrote:
> Wiseguy wrote:
>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote
>> in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>
>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians to
>>> bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun surprise
>>> to me.
>
> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and even
> voices in TAS.
>
>
>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
>> Beauty?" she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>
> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
>
> She *also* portrayed Felesa (sp?) in the TOS episode "Return to
> Tomorrow".

She also played the leader of some dreary cod-amazon tribe in Roddenberry's
dismal pilot about the guy who wakes up in the future, the one with John
Saxon in it about a city called Pax and everybody whizzes around in these
travel tube things with the guy who played the bad android in What Are
Little Girls Made Of? as well, I think.

Painfully bad TV, starring Diana Muldaur who frankly was a bit long in the
tooth and going a bit stringy for the part. Was she another of The Great
Bird's bits on the side?


Ian

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Kweeg
03-15-2008, 08:30 PM
"Bill Plenge" <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:frhdcm$8q5$1@aioe.org...
> Anybody wrote:
> > In article <frg7o7$fl3$1@aioe.org>, "Bill Plenge"
> > <B_Plenge@NoSpam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anybody wrote:
> >>> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> >>> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Wiseguy wrote:
> >>>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
> >>>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
> >>>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
> >>>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> >>>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians
> >>>>>> to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun
> >>>>>> surprise to me.
> >>>>
> >>>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> >>>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
> >>>> even voices in TAS.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
> >>>>> Beauty?" she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
> >>>>
> >>>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
> >>>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
> >>>
> >>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> >>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
> >>
> >> I'm glad that the producers of M*A*S*H didn't follow that advice
> >> when Henrly Blake left the show, though replacing him with Harry
> >> Morgan who previously played a crazy general may've made for a few
> >> stracthed heads until people got use to the idea.
> >
> > "Henry Blake" was the character's name played by McLean Stevenson
> > (spelling?). Harry Morgan played a totally different character named
> > "Sherman T. Potter" - anyone who got confused over that was an idiot
> > anyway. :-\
> >
> > But, one actor taking over the role played by another wasn't what I
> > was talking about (although that is equally as silly!). We were
> > talking about the same actor playing two or more roles on the same
> > show.
> >
> > Someone like Combs could get away with it because the make-up means
> > they look totally different, but he's such a hopeless actor that all
> > the characters come out exactly the same.
>
> I was refering to Harry Morgan's earlier appearance where he was a crazy
> general who wanted to court martial Hawkeye (that doesn't narrow it down
to
> omuch.) The one who told a black witness aat the cout martial to tell his
> story then added, "But first a number" The conversation that followed was
> something like this ...
>
> Witness: "Sir?"
> Morgan: "You know. A musical number, it's in your blood"
> and it got worse from there.

Anybody's a little slow on the uptake, unless it his perpetual moaning about
the "idiots" in "Hollyweird" who are greedy because they want to make money
or condemning the fools that go out to movies.

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Kweeg
03-15-2008, 08:31 PM
"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:160320081048398851%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <47dc45ee$0$14356$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>
> > Anybody wrote:
> > > In article <47dbc361$0$5651$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "Ric" <No@Way.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:150320081816486371%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> > >>> In article <13tmjq5d17mvk46@corp.supernews.com>, "Steven L."
> > >>> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Wiseguy wrote:
> > >>>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk>
> > >>>>> wrote in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
> > >>>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
> > >>>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
> > >>>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of
> > >>>>>> thespians to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as
> > >>>>>> a fun surprise to me.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
> > >>>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
> > >>>> even voices in TAS.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
> > >>>>> Beauty?"
> > >>>>> she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
> > >>>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
> > >>> <snip>
> > >>>
> > >>> Dr Pulaski in TNG. Dr Mulhall in TOS.
> > >>>
> > >>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> > >>> especially multiple roles in the same "series".
> > >>
> > >> Dennis Franz was recast as a second character on Hill Street Blues
> > >> and went the distance on that show only to play, essentially, the
> > >> same part on NYPD Blues for which he won four Emmys.
> > >
> > > It happens in many shows (Macgyver's boss played a different role in
> > > an earlier episode). It's because the actor does well in the first
> > > role that they bring him back for a second, but unless the first role
> > > is an extremely minor one it's often annoying or confusing for the
> > > viewers, even though it's usually good for the actor.
> >
> > Only if that viewer is a very casual one.
> > So casual he doesn't actually count.
>
> To proper "fans" it can be annoying and incosistent as well -
> especially if the actor is suddenly playing a completely opposite
> character (eg. a 'baddie' and then a 'goodie').
>
> With the huge number of wannabe actors in Hollyweird, it's also simply
> unnecessary for minor roles.

And as we all know Anybody speaks for "All True Fans."

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Kweeg
03-15-2008, 08:38 PM
"Anybody" <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:160320080858300753%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <47dbf738$0$14346$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>
> > Anybody wrote:
> > >
> > > Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple roles,
> > > especially multiple roles in the same "series".
> >
> > Not even Jeff Combs? :-)
>
> He first needs to learn how to actually act, rather than simply say the
> lines he's been given. True acting is not just about playing multiple
> roles, it's about being able to portray those different characters AS
> different characters ... not the same character with a different
> looking mask on his head. :-\

What a ****ing idot Anybody is, common really. Coombs is not a bad actor, so
****ing what if one could tell by his voice who it was. Worked for John
Wayne, Dean Martin, Shatner and a host of others.

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"So say we all!"

JR
03-15-2008, 09:32 PM
MrSpook wrote:

>>
>
>
> I think it's pronounced, "Dr. Ron Paul ask he".
>
> (But then I might be confusing her with some reggae song.)

I'll be glad when the US elections are over with and this Ron Paul
****** crawls back under his dung heap.

Kweeg
03-15-2008, 10:52 PM
"JR" <spam@me.not> wrote in message
news:NM_Cj.22585$Lf7.16604@fe117.usenetserver.com. ..
> MrSpook wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I think it's pronounced, "Dr. Ron Paul ask he".
> >
> > (But then I might be confusing her with some reggae song.)
>
> I'll be glad when the US elections are over with and this Ron Paul
> ****** crawls back under his dung heap.

He lives under Spook?

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"So say we all!"

Wouter Valentijn
03-16-2008, 09:09 AM
Anybody wrote:
> In article <47dc4a5e$0$14343$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>
>> Anybody wrote:
>>> In article <47dbf738$0$14346$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
>>> Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anybody wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you know why actors shouldn't be allowed to play multiple
>>>>> roles, especially multiple roles in the same "series".
>>>>
>>>> Not even Jeff Combs? :-)
>>>
>>> He first needs to learn how to actually act, rather than simply say
>>> the lines he's been given. True acting is not just about playing
>>> multiple roles, it's about being able to portray those different
>>> characters AS different characters ... not the same character with a
>>> different looking mask on his head. :-\
>>
>> I think you're being to harsh on Jeff. ;-)
>> Brunt was imo very different from Weyoun.Or Shran.
>
> Maybe it is overly harsh, but every time I hear his voice it's a case
> of "Oh no, not him again!". :-( It wouldn't surprise me if he was a
> long-time close friend of Beavis or Butthead.

With me it's the opposite: "Hey Combs! Cool!"


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Wouter Valentijn
03-16-2008, 09:13 AM
Jaxtraw wrote:
> Steven L. wrote:
>> Wiseguy wrote:
>>> "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam" <samandjanet@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote
>>> in news:frdnm7$ncq$1@aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> While watching a TOS episode, I discovered that the actress who
>>>> played Dr Pulaski in TNG also played Dr Mulhall in some TOS
>>>> episodes... Okay, I know you're thinking "so what?"..
>>>> But I didn't realise she was one of the small number of thespians
>>>> to bridge the gap between the two era's, so it came as a fun
>>>> surprise to me.
>>
>> The all time champion of gap-bridging has to be Mark Lenard. He
>> appeared in TOS of course, ST:TMP, ST III, ST IV, ST VI, TNG, and
>> even voices in TAS.
>>
>>
>>> She only appeared as Dr. Mulhall once. In "Is There in Truth No
>>> Beauty?" she portrayed the blind Dr. Miranda Jones.
>>
>> She played Dr. Mulhall through much of Season 2 of TNG, until Gates
>> McFadden calmed down and returned to the show.
>>
>> She *also* portrayed Felesa (sp?) in the TOS episode "Return to
>> Tomorrow".
>
> She also played the leader of some dreary cod-amazon tribe in
> Roddenberry's dismal pilot about the guy who wakes up in the future,
> the one with John Saxon in it about a city called Pax and everybody
> whizzes around in these travel tube things with the guy who played
> the bad android in What Are Little Girls Made Of? as well, I think.
>
> Painfully bad TV, starring Diana Muldaur who frankly was a bit long
> in the tooth and going a bit stringy for the part. Was she another of
> The Great Bird's bits on the side?
>

That was one of the first two attempts at a Dylan Hunt story.
The third one became Andromeda.
Another Trek connection were the sexy outfits. I think they were the same as
used by ladies of the Kelvan empire.


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JD in TX
03-16-2008, 01:26 PM
"Wouter Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote in
news:47dd1cf7$0$14357$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl:

> That was one of the first two attempts at a Dylan Hunt story.

Yep, it was called "Planet Earth." I loved it as a kid and wish it was
made into a series. The first "Dylan Hunt" pilot was called "Genesis
II" and starred Alex Cord as Dylan Hunt. I believe it had some of the
same characters as Planet Earth but they were played by different
actors.

Wouter Valentijn
03-16-2008, 02:24 PM
JD in TX wrote:
> "Wouter Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote in
> news:47dd1cf7$0$14357$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl:
>
>> That was one of the first two attempts at a Dylan Hunt story.
>
> Yep, it was called "Planet Earth." I loved it as a kid and wish it was
> made into a series. The first "Dylan Hunt" pilot was called "Genesis
> II" and starred Alex Cord as Dylan Hunt. I believe it had some of the
> same characters as Planet Earth but they were played by different
> actors.

And one of these two (can't remember which) had villains that now would look
like modern Klingons, kinda.

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Jaxtraw
03-16-2008, 03:09 PM
Wouter Valentijn wrote:
> JD in TX wrote:
>> "Wouter Valentijn" <liam@valentijn.nu> wrote in
>> news:47dd1cf7$0$14357$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl:
>>
>>> That was one of the first two attempts at a Dylan Hunt story.
>>
>> Yep, it was called "Planet Earth." I loved it as a kid and wish it
>> was made into a series. The first "Dylan Hunt" pilot was called
>> "Genesis II" and starred Alex Cord as Dylan Hunt. I believe it had
>> some of the same characters as Planet Earth but they were played by
>> different actors.
>
> And one of these two (can't remember which) had villains that now
> would look like modern Klingons, kinda.

I remember seeing them both on telly some years ago and they were just
awful.


Ian

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