Hi all.... im new to this forum so bare with me if i do some noob stuff...

Ok im a huge fan of warhammer 40k (hope that some of you know it) i really enjoy all that grim and gory future where the worst is always around the corner, the problem is that the target of BL publishing is young kids so the grim and gore stuff has its limits.

I was wondering if any of you could give me some directions to authors / editors / publishers / whatever reading material that fits in that grim, dark and gory future.
Like rated r sci-fi??? i dont know if that exists....

Thanks in advance

By BL I imagine you mean the black library (http://www.blacklibrary.com/articles/pdf-list.asp)

DIRTY WORK (http://www.goonan.com/dirtyw.html) by Pat Cadigan

Google Directory - Mature Content (http://www.google.com/Top/Adult/Arts/Visual_Arts/Computer_Graphics/3D/)

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Take a look at

http://januarymagazine.com/features/feaimages/EssentialSF1.jpg (http://januarymagazine.com/features/essentialSF.html)

Or

http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/images/logo5.gif (http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/bibliography/fsfstorieswhoc04.htm)

The Protocols of Science Fiction (http://www2.ku.edu/%7Esfcenter/protocol.htm)
by James Gunn


"STARSHIP TROOPERS" (http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/athens/robert-heinlein.html)
by Robert A. Heinlein

http://bp0.blogger.com/_htiH_S-MdTE/R1NHojDJw0I/AAAAAAAAChU/kXT2wQ2hpzE/s1600-R/QuasarDragon.jpg (http://freesciencefantasy.blogspot.com/)

Phillip K D ick
Orson Scott Card
H.G. Wells
William Gibson

in the StarCraft Universe here are a few

Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Death and Rebirth (http://www.technomagi.com/josh/scstory/19990606.html)
Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Fury of the BattleMechs (http://www.technomagi.com/josh/scstory/19990424.html) - a story by Chris. See the BattleTech CWAD (rules change) (http://www.technomagi.com/josh/scmap/btech.html)
Sun, 28 Mar 1999, Chris dropped but we won anyway (http://www.technomagi.com/josh/scstory/19990328.html) - a long story by Josh. See the custom map (http://www.technomagi.com/josh/scmap/DesertIslands.html)
Sat, 27 Mar 1999, I have a blind spire! (http://www.technomagi.com/josh/scstory/19990327.html) - 1 short and 1 long story by Josh
Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Bloodbath at the Hidden Shrine (http://www.technomagi.com/josh/scstory/19990326.html) - 3 stories written by Chris

Then there is the MechWarrior/BattleTech (http://www.fanfiction.net/game/Mechwarrior_Battletech/) stories

There is StarSiege (http://fanfic.mechnex.net/) stories

and

http://darkplanet.basespace.net/images/logof.gif (http://darkplanet.basespace.net/fiction/archive.html)

DooM Stories (http://doomnexus.50megs.com/fiction.html)


Half-Life Fan Fiction (http://www.fanfiction.net/game/Half-Life/)

Basically just type what-ever game you want followed by stories into a search box and you will find stories based upon that universe

I can't really think of much that is gruesome, at least in intent. Maybe some of C.J.Cheryh's works are a bit like that. The Aveti stories are about a different mentality humans have to work alongside and the conflicts of mind and purpose, violent episodes, but not gruesome like Warhammer 50k.

I did like the Last Chance Legion stories in that universe, but there are close to pulp really. A bit like the Aliens vs Predator series of novels out there, only a bit better written!