"Tina Hall" <Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote in message
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> Hoping Seawasp reads this (I trust he knows the answer).
>
> Finally able to watch Dr. Who, in one of today's episodes is a brief
> mention of 'Torchwood'.
>
> Which I think I've seen mentioned in newsgroups as being some other
> TV
> series (that I know nothing at all about).
>
> The Dr. Who episode is about some invasion during Xmas, the Doctor
> out
> after just getting a new face. The Prime minister (some woman
> apparently
> turning up before in the series - before I started watching)
> mentions
> bringing that Torchwood into it.
>
> Either that, or I misunderstood what she was saying.
>
> Anyway, now I wonder whether this is some sort of crossover, and
> what
> that other series is.

It's been running on HDNET....interesting show.

http://www.tv.com/torchwood/show/50470/summary.html

>
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Hoping Seawasp reads this (I trust he knows the answer).

Finally able to watch Dr. Who, in one of today's episodes is a brief
mention of 'Torchwood'.

Which I think I've seen mentioned in newsgroups as being some other TV
series (that I know nothing at all about).

The Dr. Who episode is about some invasion during Xmas, the Doctor out
after just getting a new face. The Prime minister (some woman apparently
turning up before in the series - before I started watching) mentions
bringing that Torchwood into it.

Either that, or I misunderstood what she was saying.

Anyway, now I wonder whether this is some sort of crossover, and what
that other series is.

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Tina
Don't throw links at me. Internet requires a reboot and costs money. If
I want one, I'll ask, and otherwise not bother to look at whatever it is.
To Hell with internet. ### XP v3.40 RC3 ###

In message <MSGID_2=3A240=2F2199.13=40fidonet_553ce492@fidonet .org>,
Tina Hall <Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> writes
>Hoping Seawasp reads this (I trust he knows the answer).
>
>Finally able to watch Dr. Who, in one of today's episodes is a brief
>mention of 'Torchwood'.
>
>Which I think I've seen mentioned in newsgroups as being some other TV
>series (that I know nothing at all about).
>
>The Dr. Who episode is about some invasion during Xmas, the Doctor out
>after just getting a new face. The Prime minister (some woman apparently
>turning up before in the series - before I started watching) mentions
>bringing that Torchwood into it.
>
>Either that, or I misunderstood what she was saying.
>
>Anyway, now I wonder whether this is some sort of crossover, and what
>that other series is.
>
There is indeed a whole spin off series called Torchwood , with
Captain Jack leading a motley crew in the fight against all sorts of
weirdness that keeps erupting all over the place.

It's filmed in and set in Cardiff, so I recognise at least some of the
locations.

I've only actually seen Series 1 though because it's shown on a night I
teach an evening class.

Helen

Torchwood being an anagram of Doctor Who.
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Helen Hall <usenet@delete.this.baradel.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> There is indeed a whole spin off series called Torchwood , with
> Captain Jack leading a motley crew in the fight against all sorts of
> weirdness that keeps erupting all over the place.
>
> It's filmed in and set in Cardiff, so I recognise at least some of the
> locations.

Is this is the first example of product placement on behalf of a city?
I mean, with all respect to Cardiff, why Cardiff? (I know, there's a
temporal rift under Cardiff that attracts aliens, but I mean, from
outside the series.)

--
Richard Kennaway

Helen Hall <usenet@delete.this.baradel.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Tina Hall <Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> writes

>> Finally able to watch Dr. Who, in one of today's episodes is a brief
>> mention of 'Torchwood'.
>>
>> Which I think I've seen mentioned in newsgroups as being some other
>> TV series (that I know nothing at all about).
[...]
>> Anyway, now I wonder whether this is some sort of crossover, and
>> what that other series is.
>>
> There is indeed a whole spin off series called Torchwood , with
> Captain Jack leading a motley crew in the fight against all sorts of
> weirdness that keeps erupting all over the place.

Great. :) Thanks.

Now let's hope I don't have to wait another 8 years or so until I get to
watch that.

At least if it's got a similar character to the Doctor Who series, which
appeals to me a lot more than what swaps over the pond. (Perhaps it's
genetic; I'm half English, after all.) It strikes some chord similar to
what feels like 'old-time' science fiction, what used to fascinate me in
the genre, plus it's funny. (One of the episodes I just saw even
mentioned Arthur Dent, which had me realize that it's indeed rather
similar. And has me wonder whether you have to be British to produce
something like that.)

I don't think it's taking itself too seriously, which is also a plus.
Compared to for example Star Trek, or Stargate:SG1, there's no boring
characters doing boring stuff getting in the way of actual science
fiction stuff, instead there's energy, enthusiasm! Something that gives
it life even while it doesn't look as if it's trying to be realistic.

Much better. I wish there were more like it.

And I like the title music. Is that available on CD?

(Lexx struck a similar chord, also not taking itself too seriously. But
that wasn't quite the same.)

> It's filmed in and set in Cardiff, so I recognise at least some of
> the locations.

> I've only actually seen Series 1 though because it's shown on a night
> I teach an evening class.

No video recorder? (Silly question perhaps.)

> Torchwood being an anagram of Doctor Who.

Cool.

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Tina Hall wrote:
> Helen Hall <usenet@delete.this.baradel.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Tina Hall <Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> writes
>
>>> Finally able to watch Dr. Who, in one of today's episodes is a brief
>>> mention of 'Torchwood'.
>>>
>>> Which I think I've seen mentioned in newsgroups as being some other
>>> TV series (that I know nothing at all about).
> [...]
>>> Anyway, now I wonder whether this is some sort of crossover, and
>>> what that other series is.
>>>
>> There is indeed a whole spin off series called Torchwood , with
>> Captain Jack leading a motley crew in the fight against all sorts of
>> weirdness that keeps erupting all over the place.
>
> At least if it's got a similar character to the Doctor Who series, which
> appeals to me a lot more than what swaps over the pond. (Perhaps it's
> genetic; I'm half English, after all.) It strikes some chord similar to
> what feels like 'old-time' science fiction, what used to fascinate me in
> the genre, plus it's funny. (One of the episodes I just saw even
> mentioned Arthur Dent, which had me realize that it's indeed rather
> similar. And has me wonder whether you have to be British to produce
> something like that.)
>
> I don't think it's taking itself too seriously, which is also a plus.
> Compared to for example Star Trek, or Stargate:SG1, there's no boring
> characters doing boring stuff getting in the way of actual science
> fiction stuff, instead there's energy, enthusiasm! Something that gives
> it life even while it doesn't look as if it's trying to be realistic.

Torchwood has a somewhat similar atmosphere to Dr Who. It very
definitely does not take itself seriously. It's produced for an adult
time slot, so there's a lot more relationships and high emotion and (at
least implied) sex. It's been described as "slashing itself" - if that
makes sense to you and appeals, you'll enjoy it. If not, it'll probably
be too silly for you.

Aqua

Aqua <aqua@internode.on.net> wrote:
> Tina Hall wrote:

[Torchwood]

>> At least if it's got a similar character to the Doctor Who series,
>> which appeals to me a lot more than what swaps over the pond.
>> (Perhaps it's genetic; I'm half English, after all.) It strikes some
>> chord similar to what feels like 'old-time' science fiction, what
>> used to fascinate me in the genre, plus it's funny. (One of the
>> episodes I just saw even mentioned Arthur Dent, which had me realize
>> that it's indeed rather similar. And has me wonder whether you have
>> to be British to produce something like that.)
>>
>> I don't think it's taking itself too seriously, which is also a
>> plus. Compared to for example Star Trek, or Stargate:SG1, there's no
>> boring characters doing boring stuff getting in the way of actual
>> science fiction stuff, instead there's energy, enthusiasm! Something
>> that gives it life even while it doesn't look as if it's trying to
>> be realistic.

> Torchwood has a somewhat similar atmosphere to Dr Who. It very
> definitely does not take itself seriously. It's produced for an
> adult time slot, so there's a lot more relationships and high emotion
> and (at least implied) sex. It's been described as "slashing itself"
> - if that makes sense to you and appeals, you'll enjoy it. If not,
> it'll probably be too silly for you.

Too silly is good. The right kind of silly, anyway.

I think that's the British kind of silly.

If I were to try words to describe it, it's 'absurd' silly that I like,
and is found in British humour, and it is 'slapstick' silly that I
loathe, but is found everywhere in what swaps over the pond, even in
stuff that's nowhere near supposed to be comedy - like adventure or
science fiction stories.

Implied sex is good in the right environment, too, where elsewhere I'd
get bored. And I like the idea of 'slashing itself'. :)

(Which all does no good if German broadcasting companies don't get it
that I want to watch that. And once they do, they neglect to tell me - I
missed a lot of Doctor Who because I didn't know it was on. Bwah. It has
me think of getting a DVD player and then wondering where to get
orginal, non-dubbed, DVDs. Could anyone here who lives near the source
help out?)

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In message <MSGID_2=3A240=2F2199.13=40fidonet_5544e639@fidonet .org>,
Tina Hall <Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> writes
>Helen Hall <usenet@delete.this.baradel.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> It's filmed in and set in Cardiff, so I recognise at least some of
>> the locations.
>
>> I've only actually seen Series 1 though because it's shown on a night
>> I teach an evening class.
>
>No video recorder? (Silly question perhaps.)
>
I do have a video but not one of these magic new fangled digital ones. I
have to remember to program is manually. I seem to recall that it was on
at the same time as Life on Mars and I can only cope with one "must
watch" show at a time.

I actually have mixed feelings about Torchwood, but I will probably get
around to renting the DVDs at some point.

Helen
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In message
<1ii8lt9.1881q251wdjuwwN%drachirREVERSEEACHPARTTORE PLY@yawannek.gro.ku>,
Richard Kennaway <drachirREVERSEEACHPARTTOREPLY@yawannek.gro.ku> writes
>Helen Hall <usenet@delete.this.baradel.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> There is indeed a whole spin off series called Torchwood , with
>> Captain Jack leading a motley crew in the fight against all sorts of
>> weirdness that keeps erupting all over the place.
>>
>> It's filmed in and set in Cardiff, so I recognise at least some of the
>> locations.
>
>Is this is the first example of product placement on behalf of a city?
>I mean, with all respect to Cardiff, why Cardiff? (I know, there's a
>temporal rift under Cardiff that attracts aliens, but I mean, from
>outside the series.)
>
The fact that both Doctor Who and Torchwood are made by BBC Wales may be
a big clue here. :)

It was BBC Wales who resurrected the Doctor after his long dormancy and
go the show on TV again. Doctor Who is filmed in Pontypridd (just
outside Cardiff), but there they usually had Cardiff pretending to be
London.

Helen
--
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Richard Kennaway <drachirREVERSEEACHPARTTOREPLY@yawannek.gro.ku> wrote:

> Helen Hall <usenet@delete.this.baradel.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > There is indeed a whole spin off series called Torchwood , with
> > Captain Jack leading a motley crew in the fight against all sorts of
> > weirdness that keeps erupting all over the place.
> >
> > It's filmed in and set in Cardiff, so I recognise at least some of the
> > locations.
>
> Is this is the first example of product placement on behalf of a city?
> I mean, with all respect to Cardiff, why Cardiff? (I know, there's a
> temporal rift under Cardiff that attracts aliens, but I mean, from
> outside the series.)

How do you define "product placement on behalf of a city" in such a way
that it could be the first? There's lots of shows filmed in and set in
cities so I'd seem to be missing a vital criterion.

Zeborah
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Zeborah <zeborah@gmail.com> wrote:
> How do you define "product placement on behalf of a city" in such a way
> that it could be the first? There's lots of shows filmed in and set in
> cities so I'd seem to be missing a vital criterion.

It just seemed so...arbitrary. And in the first few episodes (I've
hardly seen Torchwood since) all the photogenic shots of modern Cardiff
struck me as PR for a city centre regeneration scheme, as if they had a
brochure from the city council and were checking off all the gleaming
new buildings and public works as they put scenes there.

It may well have been done before, but it's more than just having been
set in an identifiable place.

I think Helen Hall has nailed it elsethread: made by BBC Wales.

--
Richard Kennaway

Richard Kennaway <drachirREVERSEEACHPARTTOREPLY@yawannek.gro.ku> wrote:

> Zeborah <zeborah@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How do you define "product placement on behalf of a city" in such a way
> > that it could be the first? There's lots of shows filmed in and set in
> > cities so I'd seem to be missing a vital criterion.
>
> It just seemed so...arbitrary. And in the first few episodes (I've
> hardly seen Torchwood since) all the photogenic shots of modern Cardiff
> struck me as PR for a city centre regeneration scheme, as if they had a
> brochure from the city council and were checking off all the gleaming
> new buildings and public works as they put scenes there.
>
> It may well have been done before, but it's more than just having been
> set in an identifiable place.
>
> I think Helen Hall has nailed it elsethread: made by BBC Wales.

I haven't watched Torchwood at all, but ISTM that if I had to record a
TV series *anywhere*, I'd be tempted to use photogenic shots.

Are you suggesting that if they hired you to do Torchwood, and you had
to do "city street" scenes in Cardiff, you'd deliberately avoid anything
photogenic?

It might be a good idea to avoid any recognisable landmarks, I suppose
(not that I'd recognise any Cardiff landmarks anyway, never having been
there).

Jonathan

Jonathan L Cunningham <spam@sofluc.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> I haven't watched Torchwood at all, but ISTM that if I had to record a
> TV series *anywhere*, I'd be tempted to use photogenic shots.

I'd use whatever shots told the story best. That would not necessarily
be of squeaky-clean modern office developments, immaculate pedestrian
precincts, and cultural centres, caressed with long helicopter shots.

Anyway, just my impression, but a pretty strong one.

--
Richard Kennaway

Richard Kennaway wrote:
> Jonathan L Cunningham <spam@sofluc.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> I haven't watched Torchwood at all, but ISTM that if I had to record a
>> TV series *anywhere*, I'd be tempted to use photogenic shots.
>
> I'd use whatever shots told the story best. That would not necessarily
> be of squeaky-clean modern office developments, immaculate pedestrian
> precincts, and cultural centres, caressed with long helicopter shots.
>
> Anyway, just my impression, but a pretty strong one.
>
I think you're overthinking this. There are plenty of shots of dingy
areas in Cardiff, as well.


Bill

In article <MSGID_2=3A240=2F2199.13=40fidonet_5544e639@fidonet .org>,
Tina Hall <Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:
>And I like the title music. Is that available on CD?

There've been two CDs released of Murray Gold's music from the series.

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